OK, so this was a really random thing I just stumbled upon a copy of online. At the start of it, the couple girls looked vaguely familiar to me, then suddenly "Brian Groves" came up on screen and started talking about Crazy Girls, with fliers and shirts with crazygirls.org on them. It's an episode of a show called "Strippers", which apparently was on some "Men & Motors" channel back in the day in the UK. Never heard of it or knew it existed (I'm not from the UK), but it apparently had a lot of fun looking sexy shows back in the day. Here's a link to the episode:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ssmAkMFDxx3DXApa7303LpncWlP0IBIF/view?usp=sharing

Anyway, given that the series is about strippers, it focuses on a couple girls (Martina & Jamie) as they do a number of booked stripping appointments. Brian talks about various other things including the website (btw, I always thought the last name was just "Grove", but the show has an "s" at the end of the name?). There's a tiny bit of food play in the form of one of the girls being a human food table, and a TINY bit of whipped cream and sauce stuff during performances.

Not really WAM content, but curious seeing such vintage documentary stuff about Crazy Girls from back in the day. Thought a few of you other fellow Crazy Girls fans from back in the day might find it interesting. I know nothing about this beyond what's in the episode. I did search about the show and found that the Men & Motors network has a website with a PDF that has info about all their old programming. Apparently this "Strippers" series had 37 episodes (it's on page 39 of the PDF).

http://menandmotors.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Men-Motors-Sales-Catalogue-2018.pdf

Interesting. Poked around the site a bit more and noticed that they have a streaming subscription that has all of these old shows, including Strippers. Dropped 4 pounds for a month to poke around all these old shows.

Used to love a bit of this channel back in the day! I think Naomi K turns up on a couple of shows (not in messy stuff unfortunately).

But there was a cookery show with Jo Guest which has a very minor bit of food play: there was a weekly segment where they'd try out food that had been drizzled/splatted on a model.

This is certainly an interesting find. Thanks for sharing the 'Strippers' episode file. I vaguely remember the "Men & Motors" channel, but recall nothing of the content it showed.
However this has definitely brought back memories of Crazy Girls, which was one of my go-to websites in the early days of having internet access and searching for WAM and gunge related material! (which was over 20 years ago now, around 2000/2001 if I recall correctly! . I remember CG was a little naughtier than most of the other messy sites I had found!
I am pretty sure it should be Brian Grove (rather than Groves) - think the TV show has labelled that wrong. I remember the model girl called Jamie - recon she was featured in my first ever WAM download file; getting a cold water soaked in uniform. The file size was only around 3-4 MB - took my dial up modem of the time about 2 hours to download it!
I am pretty sure there was the main Crazy Girls business site and then later a few associated websites (mainly for photo/clip gunge and mess content), which were around for a few years, before disappearing. I recall that there was some sort of issue involving one of the UK police forces that seemed to scupper the stripper business and then eventually force the end of the online content too? Have a feeling Brian Grove moved overseas in the end? I am sure others will remember better than me!

Yes, definitely "Brian Grove" anywhere I ever saw hum mentioned, right back to the days of Messy News.


He was the first adult content producer I was aware of to embrace the liberalised phone system - at one point you could dial a number that (using a T9 keypad) spelled out the word "strippers" to make a booking. Quite advanced stuff for the 1990s. He was also one of the first in WAM to have a full content membership website I think, back when most WAM was still being sold on VHS or DVD.

I have a vague notion that he tried to expose some kind of official corruption, possibly something to do with the universities where he recruited students as models trying to block students from seeing job ads because they were in cahoots with local businesses that wanted cheap labour and didn't like someone offering higher pay - this being back when there only were six wam producers so rates were much higher. Though as this is memories from nearly 30 years ago may be much scrambled.

I believe he and his wife moved to Spain where they opened an animal sanctuary, however she then died tragically of a very aggresive form of cancer. He then moved to South America, and eventually dropped out of the WAM business.

I remember the crazygirls website! Not the most raunchy by a long way, but here's a link to a pretty hot blonde girl called Melina getting gunge dumped over her ponytail:

https://umd.net/forums/crazy-girls-international--gungedcom

I loved his stuff back in the day, that was one of my first-ever favorite sites.

Was a shame how this forum treated him.

I remember Men and Motors but never watched it back in the day.
I loved CrazyGirls and Jamie was actually my favourite girl from that site, but sadly I had a "try to delete your fetish" moment a long time ago, and deleted all my downloaded videos, which proved to be a mistake. I lost all my videos of Jamie (some very nice ones - I particularly remember her in a sexy blue dress getting very messy, having the dress ripped off, and a load of jam dropped between her legs).
Shame it's all gone now.