A question for fans of fully clothed WAM, what is your absolute favourite thing to see in a scene? Imagine you have a completely clean model of your choice dressed in an outfit you really like, what is the single most important thing you want to see them do first, and/or the camera to focus on most when it's happening?
Note: Tagged female as I suspect the answers may vary between what people want to see male and female models do, and I'm primarily interested in what people watching female models want to see.
messydreams said: Sadly you did not include panties filling!
I did think of "Underwear filled under clothes" as an option but UMD polls only allow 10 options and the question is really about fully clothed wam - if panties are visible then the model isn't fully clothed (with a few exceptions like transparent plastic outfits).
I am a fan of fully clothed wam, preferring casual wear. Clothes filling, total coverage, pants/underwear filling, etc. Just my 2 cents but I don't always have to have her braless either. I'm also in big favor of rinse/hose offs!
messydreams said: Sadly you did not include panties filling!
I did think of "Underwear filled under clothes" as an option but UMD polls only allow 10 options and the question is really about fully clothed wam - if panties are visible then the model isn't fully clothed (with a few exceptions like transparent plastic outfits).
Fair point - still very nice to see a fully clothed female have her knickers filled then have her skirt/dress/trousers pulled back into place...
Te gustaba and all but for me it's meaningless if it isn't something being dumped over the head or thrown in the face. Self-WAM doesn't interest me in the slightest.
flanned said: The hair being covered is important to me
Fair enough, but do you always want to see it first, or is it enough that it happens during the scene? Most of our messy scenes will include a fairly detailed mess shampoo section where the girls have lots of mess well and truly worked all over and into their hair, but usually towards the end of the scene after their clothes have been completely messed up.
gness7 said: 1st place is pretty obvious, but how about that 2nd and 3rd.
Yep, noticed that. TBH I wasn't expecting such a huge vote for over the head, only threw that option in after I'd picked all the others, as to me it's the worst way to start, as unless you have two cameras, one getting a head shot and one a long shot, then you have to either only get it in long shot, or miss seeing the first mess going onto the models skirt or trousers, which to me is the money shot.
Good to see that filling, both tops and bottoms, is doing well though. Again, to me those are what define good WAM.
RyKahn610 said: Te gustaba and all but for me it's meaningless if it isn't something being dumped over the head or thrown in the face. Self-WAM doesn't interest me in the slightest.
Fair enough, we do usually do full head and face coverage in our scenes, but near the end, after the clothes have been totally messed up first.
gness7 said: Personally, I never understood the point of female underwear (I hate the P-word) filling as they're usually so tiny there's nothing to get filled. Maybe a larger boyshort cut, but generally speaking it always seemed like a waste. But that's just me. Love your loves.
Agree as far as so-called "sexy" underwear goes. This is part of the reason we always used to dress the girls in swimsuits instead of standard underwear under their clothes, and have done things like gym knickers, which are much more substantial than lingerie type stuff. Last year we bought a bunch of high waist full-cut bikini bottoms for the girls to sometimes use instead of swimsuits under their clothes, especially if they want the bare-midrif look, say running pants and a bra top.
Something I quite like the idea of experimenting with this year is someone wearing one of the bikini bottoms under say a tracksuit, and then having the bikini bottoms well filled and seeing how long it takes for the mess to leak out and start wetting / staining throigh her trousers.
Myds said: Messy faces would be my pick, not quite the same as "gunge over head and down the outfit."
We tend to do that after the girls have had their mess shampoos, towards the end of a scene - partly so we can see their reactions earlier on, and partly as once it's done they tend to be somewhat blinded by all the mess flowing over their eyes. Look towards the end of the sample pics of most of our scenes and you'll see complete face coverage. I don't think we could do that as a start point though, as mentioned above, unless it was shot entirely in long shot, or with two cameras, the actual money shots of the model's trousers or skirt starting to get messy would be missed.
wet_stuffM said: I am a fan of fully clothed wam, preferring casual wear. Clothes filling, total coverage, pants/underwear filling, etc. Just my 2 cents but I don't always have to have her braless either. I'm also in big favor of rinse/hose offs!
mud monkey said: Love to see messy tight shiny lycra. Catsuit or leggings leotard. Etc
splat182002 said: Keep producing scenes in dungarees.
All noted, and we certainly intend to continue through the 20s as we did in the 10s, with a wide variety of outfits and scenarios.
Thanks to everyone who replied or voted so far, the poll closes in about 20 hours if anyone wants to get any last day votes in. Cheers!
gness7 said: Personally, I never understood the point of female underwear (I hate the P-word) filling as they're usually so tiny there's nothing to get filled. Maybe a larger boyshort cut, but generally speaking it always seemed like a waste. But that's just me. Love your loves.
To be fair, it does depend on the panties -- oops, I mean: the female underwear being filled?
Some panties/knicker/underwear filling can manage to get in quite a decent amount of gunge, custard, or beans etc.
gness7 said: Personally, I never understood the point of female underwear (I hate the P-word) filling as they're usually so tiny there's nothing to get filled. Maybe a larger boyshort cut, but generally speaking it always seemed like a waste. But that's just me. Love your loves.
To be fair, it does depend on the panties -- oops, I mean: the female underwear being filled?
Some panties/knicker/underwear filling can manage to get in quite a decent amount of gunge, custard, or beans etc.
One of the sexiest wam images I can remember was in the days of "Splosh." There was a picture of a girl wearing a casual "shirtwaister" dress, (the women will know what I mean). She had just had some jelly poured into her (braless) cleavage and was reaching inside to scoop it back out again. The thing that I most recall was her look at the lens, engaging with the camera and the half smile on her face depicting collusion. I think it was Samantha Jane.
Topcattopone said: One of the sexiest wam images I can remember was in the days of "Splosh." There was a picture of a girl wearing a casual "shirtwaister" dress, (the women will know what I mean). She had just had some jelly poured into her (braless) cleavage and was reaching inside to scoop it back out again. The thing that I most recall was her look at the lens, engaging with the camera and the half smile on her face depicting collusion. I think it was Samantha Jane.
The late Bill Shipton was an absolute genius at getting some really awesome reactions on film, a combination of hiring the right models and then encouraging them to react as you describe. I've got quite a few of his fully clothed messy scenes, and the engagement with the camera / audience really is a joy to see.
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