Ok, I have a photography client, a young lady, who I did professional business-card photos for. Right out of the blue, she says it would be fun to do photos of her spilling water or whipped cream on herself. She says she's always been a klutz and would love to capture that in photos - sort of fun messy ones. So here I am, stunned into silence and nodding my head, then saying I could make it happen. I do have her contact info, but her comment came from so far left-field that it caught me by surprise and left me tongue-tied. She is open to short videos and definitely wants photos of her spilling things on herself or having things fall on her - resulting in her becoming a mess. I briefly mentioned that there was a forum where people can post photos of themselves messy, and she said 'post them - that would be fun' but of course she has no idea of how sexual some images are here. I got the vibe that she's sort of a secret exhibitionist, and that sharing these images would be a turn-on.

I say I'm almost afraid to post it because I don't want to jinx things or set everyone up in case she backs out. But she seemed excited about finding a photographer that would be willing to shoot her being a klutz with food and getting stuff all over herself. Now I just need to contact her and suggest she bring changes of clothes and that she can use the shower here. So wish me luck, and keep your fingers crossed that it happens.

Play your cards well and you might have a messy friend on your hands. She trusts you already when she shared what was on her mind.

Oh I love it! But if you're nervous about it being too pervy, you have the option for PG rated content on UMD, they have an option for non sexual messy forums. Maybe she would feel comfortable with starting out on that? Then you could at least let her know that if she enjoyed it enough she found it kinky, maybe she would like to join our community!! Good luck with this!

This is only tangentially related....and I'm posting this simply because I wanted to use the word "tangentially."

I was just telling someone on the UMD today that now 3 people who I have known who were models have posted a "pie picture" in their modeling book...always on the third page.

So, picture...picture.....pie picture.

All three of them tripled or more the number of job offers they received from when they didn't put the picture in.

Now, were the people who saw the picture WAM fans? Unlikely. But it made their "presentation" unique and showed they had a sense of humor.

Honestly? Give her the pix, maybe crop one or 2 so she remains anonymous, let her post 'em wherever. It's not exactly like we're invisible on google, and if she wants to come back and shoot more, great. Posting to a fap forum right out of the gate, though, is...risky, imo.

Lots of good advice here. Assuming she follows through (and I think she will) I will be 100% upfront about the UMD and the chance of inappropriate private messages, 'pie your pussy' comments and the like. What she does with the photos will be up to her.

I can't post a 'before' photo until or unless she tells me to, and it certainly won't be her professional business profile shot. This will also be up to her to decide.

The vibe I felt when talking about this (and it was very quick) was that she'd find it fun but also a bit on the naughty side to shoot content and share some of it. What level of 'naughty' she is up for remains to be seen. Lastly, going from 'I've always wanted to ...' to 'Let's do this' might take a bit of time. I don't expect her to be calling me in the next few days, as her new photo was for business cards for a new job she just started. But if I don't hear from her after a couple of weeks, I'll reach out by email and get a better feel for where she's at.

Here's an open-minded lady who has put the ball in your court. This isn't that difficult. Tell her what you would like to do, be professional about it, shoot it, pay her and get a model release. If she declines or wants to think about it then okay. Move on.

Great advice! (and great photos too)

The model release will be a sure thing.

She actually emailed me this morning, basically saying 1. She's really busy with the new job, etc. right now, and 2. She's really excited to do some photos and perhaps short videos with me soon. Of course, 'soon' could be a while, based on her being busy, but I don't think it'll be too far away. Since she wants to capture her inner naughty klutz, I replied suggesting a themed shoot where she hosts a cooking show but keeps having accidents with the ingredients. Her quick email response was just 'I like it' which sounds promising. Any videos will be short, capturing the moment things spill on her without any elaborate storylines. So it seems promising, especially since it was her emailing me.

UPDATE: Facebook messaging last evening with Jen. She is ok using her first name. She said she'll probably be ok sharing the content online, but not in the 'normal' places such as Facebook. She has hundreds of great messy ideas, most centered around the idea of a messy cooking show. She's the host and is extremely clumsy. She wants to do short skits, rather than long videos, like holding a sheet cake up to the camera, then pretending she slips and it smacks into her face and upper body. Or there is a large cake or some pies on the floor and she trips and falls into them. She wants to continue talking to the camera with her face and hair messy, but also mentioned her top getting messed as well. She also said it was a 'turn on' to think about doing this, as she never actually did anything messy other than occasionally over-shampooing her hair. She also said showing this to others would be exciting, as she said she's somewhat of an exhibitionist. So my impression is she is a natural 'wammer' though she'd never heard about wam before. She said the whole idea of getting messy is 'fun and sexy' to her, sort of fun like a clown, but also sexy. Time will tell what she means by 'sexy', but she had mentioned wet t-shirts before. I did not tell her about the UMD, because I don't want her to assume wam must be associated with sex toys and possibly scare her off. I'm just going to shoot short vids and photos the way she wants them done. Again, it was Jen who contacted me to discuss this last night, which is really encouraging.