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"A new pie video from Valentine Network"
Love you, too
A long awaited new pie video from Valentine Network.
Just Put Those Pies Anywhere 1
Stacy is receiving the latest delivery of Pies at Valentine Villa. Unfortunately, her poor choice of words left her covered in pie.
Starring: Stacy Cheeks and Lexi Chase
Categories: Wet And Messy, Sploshing, Pie In The Face, Whipped Cream Fetish, Food Play, Stockings and Pantyhose, Bodysuits, Leotard Fetish.
Category: WET & MESSY
Related Categories: SPLOSHING, WHIPPED CREAM FETISH
Keywords: stacy cheeks, lexi chase, pie in the face
Just Put Those Pies Anywhere 1
Stacy is receiving the latest delivery of Pies at Valentine Villa. Unfortunately, her poor choice of words left her covered in pie.
Starring: Stacy Cheeks and Lexi Chase
Categories: Wet And Messy, Sploshing, Pie In The Face, Whipped Cream Fetish, Food Play, Stockings and Pantyhose, Bodysuits, Leotard Fetish.
Category: WET & MESSY
Related Categories: SPLOSHING, WHIPPED CREAM FETISH
Keywords: stacy cheeks, lexi chase, pie in the face
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I really like the video but I regret spending $18 for a 4 minute video
Videowatcher101 said: I really like the video but I regret spending $18 for a 4 minute video
Are you buying minutes?
RobbyWLP said:
Are you buying minutes?
Videowatcher101 said: I really like the video but I regret spending $18 for a 4 minute video
Are you buying minutes?
Yup
Videowatcher101 said: I really like the video but I regret spending $18 for a 4 minute video
Yet more evidence that I am REALLY underpricing my shit.........
SStuff said:
Yet more evidence that I am REALLY underpricing my shit.........
Videowatcher101 said: I really like the video but I regret spending $18 for a 4 minute video
Yet more evidence that I am REALLY underpricing my shit.........
Maybe if you did more than have a girl in a bikini stood in front of a screen, then you could charge more. Remember the days when you used to leave the studio and actually be creative?
Glad Nadia is back. Her videos are unique. Great looking models. High production. Good scenarios and quality pies. Usually it takes some time and build up to get to the pies going in faces but that is part of her style-- a lot of build up. Is $18 a lot for a video that is not wall-to-wall pies? It depends on what you value.
I love this video and think Nadia's videos are amazing. I love the buildup and costumes she uses. I just wish they were less than $18 because that's just a lot for a grad student haha.
BUT I am also extremely grateful that Nadia has graced us with another WAM video after all this time so thank you!
Would also love a payback video because the girl dishing it out in this video is fucking perfect
BUT I am also extremely grateful that Nadia has graced us with another WAM video after all this time so thank you!
Would also love a payback video because the girl dishing it out in this video is fucking perfect
jackspratt73 said:
Maybe if you did more than have a girl in a bikini stood in front of a screen, then you could charge more. Remember the days when you used to leave the studio and actually be creative?
Maybe if you did more than have a girl in a bikini stood in front of a screen, then you could charge more. Remember the days when you used to leave the studio and actually be creative?
Guilty as charged. 2007 was a loooong time ago, and while public shoots are fun, they're also technically illegal and I'm just too old for that shit.
And props to Nadia. If I had access to a $3 million home that I could trash for WAM videos, I'd do that in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, I make a WAM producer's salary, so my creativity has to be limited to scripts, setups, green-screen effects, costumes, and sound editing. (i.e. "all the shit that doesn't matter to customers as much as Hot Girl in Bikini.")
That is some serious pricing strategy for a 4 minute video. While I've always been a fan of their work, CANNOT justify spending that much for such a short film. No matter the video quality, camera setups, acting, production values, etc.
I actually love Rich's and Anglefan's videos just as they are. I wish I had access to some of the super pretty girls they film. Here in Los Angeles, I book locally, and pay premium prices for these LA models, sometime thru agents. Some are even award winning adult stars.
I also prefer to make the pies huge with baked crusts and thus more than twice as expensive... I also use premium costumes and buy shoes for all the models... A shoot takes an entire day to plan, shop, book and write... Another day to film and clean... Another day to edit, render, distribute and promote...
For 3 days work I need to make at least $10 per clip after distribution outlet commissions thus most of my clips are well over $10 to the consumer. This still loses money on a per video basis and, at any price, would rely on consumers buying more than one video in my store per visit.
I understand students can't afford a lot of high priced videos but hopefully they will still be there waiting for you when you're ready. Occasionally I remove videos from my store and retire them tho so don't wait too long.
Regards,
Nadia
I also prefer to make the pies huge with baked crusts and thus more than twice as expensive... I also use premium costumes and buy shoes for all the models... A shoot takes an entire day to plan, shop, book and write... Another day to film and clean... Another day to edit, render, distribute and promote...
For 3 days work I need to make at least $10 per clip after distribution outlet commissions thus most of my clips are well over $10 to the consumer. This still loses money on a per video basis and, at any price, would rely on consumers buying more than one video in my store per visit.
I understand students can't afford a lot of high priced videos but hopefully they will still be there waiting for you when you're ready. Occasionally I remove videos from my store and retire them tho so don't wait too long.
Regards,
Nadia
That's very kind of you Nadia. Actually I wish I had access to your L.A. models! Although I'm sure their rates get a bit insane. (Even out in the boonies where I live, model rates are STILL kinda insane, so I can only imagine what it's like in the land of $500K one-room apartments....)
Have you thought about offering the uncut footage for a certain price? A good chunk of my sales comes from doing this.... Depending on the model and her level of clothing (ahem), I'll charge as much as $20 for all the footage, but that includes multiple angles and the final edit. The customer gets a lot of "bang" for their buck, and storage and bandwidth are cheap so selling multiple 1 GB files isn't really a big deal.
But like I was telling someone, if you're offering a premium product, then you have a premium price. I have a LOT of catalog clips from years ago priced cheaply, so I tend to sell my edits cheaply just so the price difference between them isn't crazy.
Oh, and I need to PM you about an old model of yours.
Have you thought about offering the uncut footage for a certain price? A good chunk of my sales comes from doing this.... Depending on the model and her level of clothing (ahem), I'll charge as much as $20 for all the footage, but that includes multiple angles and the final edit. The customer gets a lot of "bang" for their buck, and storage and bandwidth are cheap so selling multiple 1 GB files isn't really a big deal.
But like I was telling someone, if you're offering a premium product, then you have a premium price. I have a LOT of catalog clips from years ago priced cheaply, so I tend to sell my edits cheaply just so the price difference between them isn't crazy.
Oh, and I need to PM you about an old model of yours.
Jenns Back said:
Wow....you are a real jerk. Rich is one of the best producers ever. Show a little respect.
Wow....you are a real jerk. Rich is one of the best producers ever. Show a little respect.
Thanks for your kind words, but it's an open forum. He's entitled to his opinion especially since I was being snarky first.
And he's not wrong. I WAS more creative in my early days.... but I think being a decade younger (and having the energy that comes with that) helped. Also, it's REALLY hard to come up with new variations on "Give me that pie!!" after the 1000th skit or so.........
NadiaUSA said: I actually love Rich's and Anglefan's videos just as they are. I wish I had access to some of the super pretty girls they film. Here in Los Angeles, I book locally, and pay premium prices for these LA models, sometime thru agents. Some are even award winning adult stars.
I also prefer to make the pies huge with baked crusts and thus more than twice as expensive... I also use premium costumes and buy shoes for all the models... A shoot takes an entire day to plan, shop, book and write... Another day to film and clean... Another day to edit, render, distribute and promote...
For 3 days work I need to make at least $10 per clip after distribution outlet commissions thus most of my clips are well over $10 to the consumer. This still loses money on a per video basis and, at any price, would rely on consumers buying more than one video in my store per visit.
I understand students can't afford a lot of high priced videos but hopefully they will still be there waiting for you when you're ready. Occasionally I remove videos from my store and retire them tho so don't wait too long.
Regards,
Nadia
I also prefer to make the pies huge with baked crusts and thus more than twice as expensive... I also use premium costumes and buy shoes for all the models... A shoot takes an entire day to plan, shop, book and write... Another day to film and clean... Another day to edit, render, distribute and promote...
For 3 days work I need to make at least $10 per clip after distribution outlet commissions thus most of my clips are well over $10 to the consumer. This still loses money on a per video basis and, at any price, would rely on consumers buying more than one video in my store per visit.
I understand students can't afford a lot of high priced videos but hopefully they will still be there waiting for you when you're ready. Occasionally I remove videos from my store and retire them tho so don't wait too long.
Regards,
Nadia
Any chance of you selling the retured videos here on the UMD? There were a couple I missed out on picking up that look awesome.
Nobody buys "minutes." You are buying what's ON those minutes of video.
Would you buy 3000 "minutes" of WAM that wasn't what you liked? Of course not.
But would you buy 4 minutes of your version of "perfect WAM?" Of course you would.
Now, that doesn't mean there's not a "price point"....there most certainly is. But it's based on video content...and not time.
Robby
Would you buy 3000 "minutes" of WAM that wasn't what you liked? Of course not.
But would you buy 4 minutes of your version of "perfect WAM?" Of course you would.
Now, that doesn't mean there's not a "price point"....there most certainly is. But it's based on video content...and not time.
Robby
I think there is room for all types of wam, super glossy Hollywood movie quality, or one person in their bathroom on a mobile phone, for most I don't think it matters, as long as their own particular fetish is featured, you could have Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Lopez wearing stockings, covering each other in pies and licking them off each other, in 8k, and charge a quid to own it, and people would still complain they weren't wearing white jeans or bikinis, or doing the macarena etc.. 
Just make wht you want to see, some people will buy it, some won't.
Just make wht you want to see, some people will buy it, some won't.
Exactly my point. What you are talking about is called "perceived value."
