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"Why do people creep on candid WAM?"
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Ok... so this has been doing on at UMD since... forever...
First, I admit I like candid WAM scenes, meaning non-fetish, not-porn, non-sexual messy scenes. I like the spontaneity. I like the fun and laughter.
Yet everyone, we have some creepers making comments on their page. W.H.Y.?
If you are creeper, can you create an account and explain why? From a WAMmers rational standpoint, it makes no sense. At best nothing happens, at worst people pull their content. Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
First, I admit I like candid WAM scenes, meaning non-fetish, not-porn, non-sexual messy scenes. I like the spontaneity. I like the fun and laughter.
Yet everyone, we have some creepers making comments on their page. W.H.Y.?
If you are creeper, can you create an account and explain why? From a WAMmers rational standpoint, it makes no sense. At best nothing happens, at worst people pull their content. Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
lchris001 said: Ok... so this has been doing on at UMD since... forever...
First, I admit I like candid WAM scenes, meaning non-fetish, not-porn, non-sexual messy scenes. I like the spontaneity. I like the fun and laughter.
Yet everyone, we have some creepers making comments on their page. W.H.Y.?
If you are creeper, can you create an account and explain why? From a WAMmers rational standpoint, it makes no sense. At best nothing happens, at worst people pull their content. Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
First, I admit I like candid WAM scenes, meaning non-fetish, not-porn, non-sexual messy scenes. I like the spontaneity. I like the fun and laughter.
Yet everyone, we have some creepers making comments on their page. W.H.Y.?
If you are creeper, can you create an account and explain why? From a WAMmers rational standpoint, it makes no sense. At best nothing happens, at worst people pull their content. Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
I mean...probably. Some people don't have filters. I mean you could apply this to men creeping on women in general. They JUST DO IT. Either they get off on it, they think they're gonna get lucky. Sometimes, sometimes there are ones that don't know any better. Some that maybe think they are paying a compliment and just don't get social cues for one reason or another. Some are just trolls.
Good luck getting someone to come on, admit that they are one of those people, and explain WHY they do it.
He's more potato now than man. Twisted and evil.
lchris001 said:
If you are creeper, can you create an account and explain why? From a WAMmers rational standpoint, it makes no sense. At best nothing happens, at worst people pull their content. Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
If you are creeper, can you create an account and explain why? From a WAMmers rational standpoint, it makes no sense. At best nothing happens, at worst people pull their content. Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
AntDX316 used to post here. He was the ultimate creeper. He made no apologies for it. (He'd creep on YouTube vids from 12-year-olds.) He thinks there's nothing wrong with it. Not sure what's going on upstairs, but the dude literally couldn't make the connection between his beyond creepy comments... and posts/videos getting pulled.
Or maybe he has 5% success with his creepy comments, so he doesn't care about the fallout from the rest.
ANYWAY. He was on here, he was super creepy, and he finally got banned. So he just kept lurking (because you can still see basically all UMD posts that way) and kept right on doing what he was doing. Same way RunninRebel got banned from here, after acting like he was gonna stop his behavior... Then immediately set up a different Twitter account and started harassing 100 celebrities a day about getting pied and slimed.
Like it or not, these are people in our community. They're not going away, they're not gonna stop their behavior, and to many members of the public, they ARE the public face of WAM. The best we can do is minimize the damage they do. As I've said many MANY times before... Maybe don't post direct links to videos/posts/social media accounts owned by random (non-WAMmer) members of the public?? Unless you WANT creeps like AntDX316 to reach out to them within minutes.
lchris001 said: Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
Yes. Unfortunately I have seen this behavior with a lot of fetishes, some guys get off to the idea of the person NOT wanting that kind of attention. It's the same basic reason why guys send dick pics to girls they don't know at all.
I post overtly sexual stuff here and it still creeps me out. Like I don't mind a "that's hot" kind of comment or even "wish I could join you", but the extremely forward and explicit comments actually weird me out. Like, I know this is a sexual things for most folks, as it is for me, but how about having the general decorum to not tell a complete stranger you want to f*** them in the mud as your first comment.
Maybe I'm being overly sensitive, given the site content, but it still weirds me out a bit.
Maybe I'm being overly sensitive, given the site content, but it still weirds me out a bit.
I'd say it's a thing with a lot of lads in general. I have other fetishes and I still see the same creepiness over there so it ain't WAM specific. But even with non fetish stuff, you go to any shithouse club(at least where I've lived) and you'll see people getting groped all the time it's pretty fuckin shit like.
Leila said:
Yes. Unfortunately I have seen this behavior with a lot of fetishes, some guys get off to the idea of the person NOT wanting that kind of attention. It's the same basic reason why guys send dick pics to girls they don't know at all.
lchris001 said: Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
Yes. Unfortunately I have seen this behavior with a lot of fetishes, some guys get off to the idea of the person NOT wanting that kind of attention. It's the same basic reason why guys send dick pics to girls they don't know at all.
That's a good comparison with unsolicited dick pics. Some people have zero social skills and have no consideration for other people. Anyone who does that or harasses celebrities on Twitter is a piece of shit.
Leila said:
Yes. Unfortunately I have seen this behavior with a lot of fetishes, some guys get off to the idea of the person NOT wanting that kind of attention. It's the same basic reason why guys send dick pics to girls they don't know at all.
lchris001 said: Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
Yes. Unfortunately I have seen this behavior with a lot of fetishes, some guys get off to the idea of the person NOT wanting that kind of attention. It's the same basic reason why guys send dick pics to girls they don't know at all.
Did you tell Regis to stop messaging you the pics?
Oh Janet! You look so funny!!!
Leila said: Yes. Unfortunately I have seen this behavior with a lot of fetishes, some guys get off to the idea of the person NOT wanting that kind of attention. It's the same basic reason why guys send dick pics to girls they don't know at all.
OK but you liked MY dick pics right?!
I would guess every fetish community has this problem. We have this problem in the bubble gum fetish community and it's a problem. As you know, this is a sexual fetish- we are totally not into children. There are legit creepers, but I think some people either have a mental issue or are not mature enough about it. There's one guy that will ask how many pieces on every video. Instagram users i've talked to that blow bubbles, especially females, have had a really big issue with people private messaging them and either making threatening demands, or being really forward as you said and sending dick pics, etc. There's really no answer because we aren't the internet police and 99% of those users aren't in these communities.
I suppose you could make a psychological connection between fetishism and obsessive behavior. If you can't control your obsessions, you're probably more likely to do this.
So, my former brother in law has Aspergers. When he was younger, and I mean even into high school age, he didn't get boundaries very well. He was uncomfortable to be around at times because of it. One thing I noticed though was that he was extremely sincere. He's around 25, his case was light, and he's grown around it. If you met him now, you'd think he were just very introverted; which he is.
Some people, that's not the case. They are fully functioning adults. They maintain a job, maybe even live on their own. It may only be in very specific aspects that certain behaviors emerge that aren't "socially acceptable".
Some are worse yet. They might also not get the help they need. Maybe they don't have family.
Now if you're truly obsessive compulsive too, wouldn't this manifest more, and more acutely?
So, my former brother in law has Aspergers. When he was younger, and I mean even into high school age, he didn't get boundaries very well. He was uncomfortable to be around at times because of it. One thing I noticed though was that he was extremely sincere. He's around 25, his case was light, and he's grown around it. If you met him now, you'd think he were just very introverted; which he is.
Some people, that's not the case. They are fully functioning adults. They maintain a job, maybe even live on their own. It may only be in very specific aspects that certain behaviors emerge that aren't "socially acceptable".
Some are worse yet. They might also not get the help they need. Maybe they don't have family.
Now if you're truly obsessive compulsive too, wouldn't this manifest more, and more acutely?
He's more potato now than man. Twisted and evil.
That's why I stopped posting links i find here, or anywhere else for that matter. Creepers aren't exclusive to our community(look at the foot fetish guys and their portrayal in the media). At the end of the day, there's nothing we can do. If you see something you like, save it just in case the creepers come out of the woods.
Back when AntDX was here, he posted some stuff from PUA (Pick Up Artist) websites. One of their standard tactics is to approach everyone with no fear of rejection; the theory is that even if the first 1000 women tell you to sod off, you might get lucky with the 1001st. Sadly they're oblivious to the fact that they're hassling people who just want to be left alone.
So, that might explain some of the behaviour here: it's wishful thinking, just in case they find the person who replies "Yes, I would love to chat to you about this in much more detail".
So, that might explain some of the behaviour here: it's wishful thinking, just in case they find the person who replies "Yes, I would love to chat to you about this in much more detail".
This also happens to vloggers (both adults and kids) who are amputees or are in a cast. They upload an innocent vlog talking about their disability or their cast, and all kinds of amputee/cast fetishists turn up in the comments section. It was mentioned in this Vice article recently. https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/evw8n7/what-a-cast-fetish-is-all-about
piecub said: This also happens to vloggers (both adults and kids) who are amputees or are in a cast. They upload an innocent vlog talking about their disability or their cast, and all kinds of amputee/cast fetishists turn up in the comments section. It was mentioned in this Vice article recently. https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/evw8n7/what-a-cast-fetish-is-all-about
wow...just...wow I'm reminded of why humanity disgusts me.
He's more potato now than man. Twisted and evil.
SStuff said:
AntDX316 used to post here. He was the ultimate creeper. He made no apologies for it. (He'd creep on YouTube vids from 12-year-olds.) He thinks there's nothing wrong with it. Not sure what's going on upstairs, but the dude literally couldn't make the connection between his beyond creepy comments... and posts/videos getting pulled.
Or maybe he has 5% success with his creepy comments, so he doesn't care about the fallout from the rest.
ANYWAY. He was on here, he was super creepy, and he finally got banned. So he just kept lurking (because you can still see basically all UMD posts that way) and kept right on doing what he was doing. Same way RunninRebel got banned from here, after acting like he was gonna stop his behavior... Then immediately set up a different Twitter account and started harassing 100 celebrities a day about getting pied and slimed.
Like it or not, these are people in our community. They're not going away, they're not gonna stop their behavior, and to many members of the public, they ARE the public face of WAM. The best we can do is minimize the damage they do. As I've said many MANY times before... Maybe don't post direct links to videos/posts/social media accounts owned by random (non-WAMmer) members of the public?? Unless you WANT creeps like AntDX316 to reach out to them within minutes.
lchris001 said:
If you are creeper, can you create an account and explain why? From a WAMmers rational standpoint, it makes no sense. At best nothing happens, at worst people pull their content. Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
If you are creeper, can you create an account and explain why? From a WAMmers rational standpoint, it makes no sense. At best nothing happens, at worst people pull their content. Do creepers get some kind of sexual turn on by creeping on others?
AntDX316 used to post here. He was the ultimate creeper. He made no apologies for it. (He'd creep on YouTube vids from 12-year-olds.) He thinks there's nothing wrong with it. Not sure what's going on upstairs, but the dude literally couldn't make the connection between his beyond creepy comments... and posts/videos getting pulled.
Or maybe he has 5% success with his creepy comments, so he doesn't care about the fallout from the rest.
ANYWAY. He was on here, he was super creepy, and he finally got banned. So he just kept lurking (because you can still see basically all UMD posts that way) and kept right on doing what he was doing. Same way RunninRebel got banned from here, after acting like he was gonna stop his behavior... Then immediately set up a different Twitter account and started harassing 100 celebrities a day about getting pied and slimed.
Like it or not, these are people in our community. They're not going away, they're not gonna stop their behavior, and to many members of the public, they ARE the public face of WAM. The best we can do is minimize the damage they do. As I've said many MANY times before... Maybe don't post direct links to videos/posts/social media accounts owned by random (non-WAMmer) members of the public?? Unless you WANT creeps like AntDX316 to reach out to them within minutes.
And guess who was the first to post on the facebook page of that model getting a nice pieing / caking in a kind of bakery skit linked to on here a coupla days ago?! ...
Bones said:
And guess who was the first to post on the facebook page of that model getting a nice pieing / caking in a kind of bakery skit linked to on here a coupla days ago?! ...
And guess who was the first to post on the facebook page of that model getting a nice pieing / caking in a kind of bakery skit linked to on here a coupla days ago?! ...
Actually, in the since-deleted post, someone posted a screenshot of ANT doing just that.
Which prompted my response about how this is par for the course for him. (I'm not a psychic.)
The other day a person I follow on youtube who has done clothed swimming videos before posted a video of them near a lake and I said "Kinda sad you didn't go in" to which she replied "Kinda sad you care more about your fetish than my well ebing"
I have no idea why I typed that comment at the time. I honestly can not give you a reason, proper or otherwise as to why I did. I wasn't the only person who made a comment along those lines and if she did reply to their comments in the same way they either deleted them or I cna't see them.
I sort of see it as a mark of shame on my part, for not being in control.
I have no idea why I typed that comment at the time. I honestly can not give you a reason, proper or otherwise as to why I did. I wasn't the only person who made a comment along those lines and if she did reply to their comments in the same way they either deleted them or I cna't see them.
I sort of see it as a mark of shame on my part, for not being in control.
I never do, then again I'm a lesbian. Hate to start a fight by saying that seems to be a male exclusive thing to see them plaster comments all over those pages. Like Cut's "Fear Pong" dares turn me on, but I don't ever say "oh gawd that cake in her face was so fucking hot, do it again"
I have a YouTube channel I won't disclose that has nothing to do with the fetish that a get a lot of creepers of my own on though. I've never picked their brains but I feel like it's parts wanting to be dominating, no social grace or boundaries, DESPERATION, loneliness, and just plain dickishness and creepiness.
I have a YouTube channel I won't disclose that has nothing to do with the fetish that a get a lot of creepers of my own on though. I've never picked their brains but I feel like it's parts wanting to be dominating, no social grace or boundaries, DESPERATION, loneliness, and just plain dickishness and creepiness.
The sad truth is some can't appreciate what they find without being a crazy sex starved jackass. I love to see candid stuff as well, but you never see me posting ANYTHING to those people. It's awful and honestly I hoped that someone would file charges against ANT for pedophilia. I guess that never happened b/c he's still being a total bag of dicks to everything with boobs apparently. Ugh... 
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The whole concept of candid WAM makes me uncomfortable. Sure, it's very easy to look down on people like Ant, he either lacks the emotional intelligence to understand how he negatively impacts people or specifically gets off on that negative impact, but try to think about it from the victim's perspective. They've posted a video or photo or something to some online platform, the subject being something totally innocuous from their perspective. Some creep leaves them a creepy message and weirds them out, but that gets them to thinking about all the other views... it starts to make more sense why this one seemingly innocent post has twenty times the views of their standard stuff. I could see that realization of thousands of fetishists getting off to you unknowingly as even more disturbing than one idiot unable to contain himself.
protostar8 said: The sad truth is some can't appreciate what they find without being a crazy sex starved jackass. I love to see candid stuff as well, but you never see me posting ANYTHING to those people. It's awful and honestly I hoped that someone would file charges against ANT for pedophilia. I guess that never happened b/c he's still being a total bag of dicks to everything with boobs apparently. Ugh...
Like I AM a "crazy sex starved jackass" but I'm also an overthinker. I try to think before I say or write something because I consider how the other person / party may receive it. And I STILL fuck up at times. I still say things I should, and then I go back and think about if I was a dick in saying it.
But I think you can see the more considerate people from the less based on the kind of message. For instance the above mentioned "shame you didn't go in". Why that could rightly elicit the response it got, it's a far cry from "I wanna slather your tits in mayonnaise and fuck you until you scream".
Then along the lines of "trolls" there are those who just want to actively sabotage something. The people that can only truly derive joy from causing someone else suffering. You can call them sadists, I just call them evil.
He's more potato now than man. Twisted and evil.
SStuff said: Maybe don't post direct links to videos/posts/social media accounts owned by random (non-WAMmer) members of the public?? Unless you WANT creeps like AntDX316 to reach out to them within minutes.
If most (if not all) major forum software is any indication, it's definitely possible to hide links from guests and banned users. Hell, you could even take it a step further and hide the entire forum from those groups.
wamajama said: the enabling factor in 99% of Internet 'creeping' and trolling:
anonymity
anonymity
We know Ant's name (and it's not a common one) since he uses it on Youtube...
what about when they creep on other users? I just found another site and they were saying negative things about the bubble community. I mean if you have legit complaints yes, but just attacking people- there's no place for that.
They called you a stick in the mud, Regis! Seriously though
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