I am probably in the minority here...but I think a great pie scene is enhanced this way. Rich did it in his Chega Mais parody when he duplicated the "Squish" sounds when the pies land. In a couple of the Pied Pinups scenes there is canned laughter after the pie...I know its totally fake and cheesy but it still adds to the humiliation for me...as long as there is a well-acted reaction. I guess it goes back to the Stooges who made a pie hit sound like a wet newspaper slapped across a brick wall.
It's not make or break, but it really enhances the scene for me and I personally would like to hear more of this.
Yes! I love old school sound effects and audience reactions! Especially anticipatory laughter and a slightly sympathetic 'urghh' when a particularly nasty mess is delivered.
I agree! The splat adds to the excitement and the canned laughter adds to the humiliation effect! Actually both sounds do along with the girl moaning or making sounds under a stuck pie plate or heap of pie on her face!
Funny....I said to Jessie on Monday why doesn't she have more music/comedy sound effects and she was saying when she started she did. Maybe as she recovers that'll be a new feature!
fredsout said: I am probably in the minority here...but I think a great pie scene is enhanced this way. Rich did it in his Chega Mais parody when he duplicated the "Squish" sounds when the pies land.
Yep, I've actually done a LOT of sound FX over the years... But it depends on the scene and usually it's just for specific hits. Usually if it's set up as your typical "blackout" gag, then the sound FX (and canned laugher afterwards) will work. Whereas two girls pieing each other wouldn't use any sound FX at all.
When Shelly "disappears" into a Three Stooges short in SS128, that's a good example of a segment that used sound FX, where the rest of the scene did not.
Or in the final edit of Scene 2 from the new SS163, I used sound FX *just* for Carrie's "Come on down to Crusty's Cream Pies!" caking to approximate the look of a cheap local commercial.
Then there's the classic 3 Stooges pie Sound FX....which sounded like someone hitting a sack of potatoes with a baseball bat...violent to the extreme, but indelibly imprinted on my brain circuits.
here are most of the female Stooges hits all in one place...lousy quality, unfortunately. Incidentally, Joe Besser is undoubtedly the worst Stooge ever, but the best pie and best cake of the entire series happened during his era...both delivered to the beautiful former Miss Denmark, Greta Thyssen.
There is a silent minority (getting smaller as generations pass) that appreciates the slapstick comedy aspect of this fetish, which includes audience laughter, sound effects, etc. I am part of that minority. It is getting smaller because of the ubiquity of porn nowadays. If you are a millenial you have easy access to porn at an age when I was trying to figure out a way to hide my excitement at Sarah Purcell getting creamed on Real People while watching on one TV in the family room with my parents and two young sisters nearby. My experience was not better or worse-- just different. Rich and Wamerica are two producers (off the top of my head) who understand "my" fetish. Just look at that clip posted by Rich on Youtube from the Roaring 20s. A black and white clip, poor video quality, no nudity or any sexual innuendo and I loved it.
Correction to add that we are not silent-- we are actually pains in the ass to producers (like every other customer). "But could you make a scene where there is a blond with big tits, dressed as a clown, wearing a watch, pied -- but don't use a tin...."
CKCP said: There is a silent minority (getting smaller as generations pass) that appreciates the slapstick comedy aspect of this fetish, which includes audience laughter, sound effects, etc. I am part of that minority. It is getting smaller because of the ubiquity of porn nowadays. If you are a millenial you have easy access to porn at an age when I was trying to figure out a way to hide my excitement at Sarah Purcell getting creamed on Real People while watching on one TV in the family room with my parents and two young sisters nearby. My experience was not better or worse-- just different. Rich and Wamerica are two producers (off the top of my head) who understand "my" fetish. Just look at that clip posted by Rich on Youtube from the Roaring 20s. A black and white clip, poor video quality, no nudity or any sexual innuendo and I loved it.
Thanks for the shout out!
I painstakingly add that "splaat " effect to every pie in every vid I have made so far, and i love that shit, so I'll keep doing it.
I think Silly films does it to. While I'm a teny-tiny bit over the song that they use, I do love that silent film vibe and the extra effort of the sound effect.
In a mostly unrelated note, I also think it's hilarious when Rich goes full fake mustache in a vid. Don't know why, but always hope to see that.
Meathook said: In a mostly unrelated note, I also think it's hilarious when Rich goes full fake mustache in a vid. Don't know why, but always hope to see that.
Haha, I don't even think I own the fake mustaches anymore. (The Afro wig, on the other hand... 12 years and counting. And I think it was a rental that I never returned. Damn!!)
I really need to find and upload the "Ted Turner introduction" to our B&W three-girl scene from Volume 30. That's the best fake mustache clip ever.
CKCP said: There is a silent minority (getting smaller as generations pass) that appreciates the slapstick comedy aspect of this fetish, which includes audience laughter, sound effects, etc. I am part of that minority. It is getting smaller because of the ubiquity of porn nowadays. If you are a millenial you have easy access to porn at an age when I was trying to figure out a way to hide my excitement at Sarah Purcell getting creamed on Real People while watching on one TV in the family room with my parents and two young sisters nearby. My experience was not better or worse-- just different. Rich and Wamerica are two producers (off the top of my head) who understand "my" fetish. Just look at that clip posted by Rich on Youtube from the Roaring 20s. A black and white clip, poor video quality, no nudity or any sexual innuendo and I loved it.
The generation thing hadn't even occurred to me! As a 'Generation X'-er traditional slapstick comedy is a seminal part of my WAM heritage along with all the music and sounds. I wonder if there are actually any 'Millennials' out there for whom this is also the case?
I've heard the argument that some of the last decade's "porn-ing" of WAM might be due to more millennials being involved. The argument basically goes like:
--A 21-year-old in 2016 was born in 1995. --So for their entire lifespan, porn has been available anywhere and everywhere online. --The last era of children's TV inadvertently "creating" WAMmers was ending in the mid-90's, so millennials wouldn't have been exposed to pies & slime via innocent "kid's TV" like earlier generations (from Soupy Sales and Three Stooges to Sesame Street to YCDTOTV to Double Dare to WWYD). --Similarly, there was basically nothing in the way of "messy" slapstick comedy--in America anyway--in the mainstream for the last 20 years. --So if a millennial "found" these messy clips, they would've been in the context of WAM material... Either via YouTube accounts that cater to primarily messy female (or male) clips, or sites like this one and TellyGunge that spotlight messy clips for fetish purposes. --And, of course, these "mainstream" clips would've been dwarfed by the sheer amount of produced WAM that is designed to be fetish porn material... And is, in most cases (myself, Leon, and a few others excepted) mostly R- or X-rated.
Not sure how much merit the argument has, but it bears mentioning that I was aware of my "interest" from the age of 6.... But didn't realize it was a fetish until my early 20s, when I discovered the MessyFun site. Which, not coincidentally, was also the first time I saw any sort of pie scene with nudity involved. There's no way a millennial now has a 15-year gap between realizing he "likes" messy clips and realizing it's a fetish. And being exposed to the hardcore elements of this fetish early on has to contribute to your tastes, I would assume.
Personal I'm not a big fan of sound effect in wam. I like the noise that a pie makes when thrown with out a tin. It's like a combination of splat and thump.
SStuff said: I really need to find and upload the "Ted Turner introduction" to our B&W three-girl scene from Volume 30. That's the best fake mustache clip ever.
I know it's not messy, but I kinda love the stupid random stuff I used to shoot (like this). In hindsight, probably should've brought "Ted Turner" back a few more times... This actually predates Will Forte's version of him on Conan O'Brien. (Of course Forte's version is a million times better, but anyway...)
Also, nothing says "mid-2000's" like Dave Chappelle jokes!
SStuff said: I've heard the argument that some of the last decade's "porn-ing" of WAM might be due to more millennials being involved. The argument basically goes like:
--A 21-year-old in 2016 was born in 1995. --So for their entire lifespan, porn has been available anywhere and everywhere online. --The last era of children's TV inadvertently "creating" WAMmers was ending in the mid-90's, so millennials wouldn't have been exposed to pies & slime via innocent "kid's TV" like earlier generations (from Soupy Sales and Three Stooges to Sesame Street to YCDTOTV to Double Dare to WWYD). --Similarly, there was basically nothing in the way of "messy" slapstick comedy--in America anyway--in the mainstream for the last 20 years. --So if a millennial "found" these messy clips, they would've been in the context of WAM material... Either via YouTube accounts that cater to primarily messy female (or male) clips, or sites like this one and TellyGunge that spotlight messy clips for fetish purposes. --And, of course, these "mainstream" clips would've been dwarfed by the sheer amount of produced WAM that is designed to be fetish porn material... And is, in most cases (myself, Leon, and a few others excepted) mostly R- or X-rated.
Not sure how much merit the argument has, but it bears mentioning that I was aware of my "interest" from the age of 6.... But didn't realize it was a fetish until my early 20s, when I discovered the MessyFun site. Which, not coincidentally, was also the first time I saw any sort of pie scene with nudity involved. There's no way a millennial now has a 15-year gap between realizing he "likes" messy clips and realizing it's a fetish. And being exposed to the hardcore elements of this fetish early on has to contribute to your tastes, I would assume.
It's worth noting that, in the UK at least, slime and pies were a major part of kid's TV up until the mid-late 2000s, so a 21 year old today would have been brought up on innocent mess on TV much more than an American might have done.
Do you get many downloads from the UK, or is it a much more USA-based market for you? I wonder if it tells us anything different?
SStuff said: I really need to find and upload the "Ted Turner introduction" to our B&W three-girl scene from Volume 30. That's the best fake mustache clip ever.
I know it's not messy, but I kinda love the stupid random stuff I used to shoot (like this). In hindsight, probably should've brought "Ted Turner" back a few more times... This actually predates Will Forte's version of him on Conan O'Brien. (Of course Forte's version is a million times better, but anyway...)
Also, nothing says "mid-2000's" like Dave Chappelle jokes!
Clearly this is the best work you've ever done. Don't stop pieing girls, of course. Just more fake mustache.
Rich: you are forgetting Slime Time Live....which, if I recall, continued up to about 2003, and, U Pick Live lasted until 2005...so, plenty of younger folks (probably some still in their late teens) were exposed to pie and slime gags here in the US...although I doubt sound FX were used much in these shows
It's probably not that slapstick 'ceased' before the turn of the century, but for those of us now in this 'preceding' generation, it is probably much easier to see how the cultural genealogy lead to and united our particular tastes. Our staple was the 'golden age' of TV light entertainment which, as it was a powerfully shared experience has informed and influenced our tastes. WAM is therefore embroiled in that 'fondness' for light entertainment. The younger generation's shared experiences are less tangible given the direct influence we all have now on our communication and media. They can get straight to the point - however without context that is...
I really love the marriage of comedy and slapstick with titilation: it has a familiarity and warmth. It also gives it a dual purpose and makes the oddness of loving messy women seem...OK. I love the Ted Turner intro and it's like - it not only lightens the whole thing, but offset against the action, actually contextualises the female slapstick content which becomes more exciting! 'Unframed' or directly sexual WAM becomes really boring very quickly for me.
Being a Gen-Xer, my interest was definitely initially fueled by TV comedy skits. As such, as much as I LOVE pies, I do think of mine as a slapstick fetish (with a major in pies). For example, I even get an erotic (if not to the level of fappable) charge out of seeing an attractive woman execute a really good pratfall.