Just learned that Messy-Wrestling.com Are not gonna update any muddy wrestling scene any time soon(more like ever)... Its a big downer for me , it was my favourite site and now its gone because of lack of sales.
Now with this and chega mais (CM) gone i'm running out of things to watch that are new .
The only site left that satisfy me is Mostwam.tv And even then.. I think they always use the same kind of outfit and it gets repetitive but still the only good site left.
Lets hope something good comes up soon for me to like .
Let me hear what are you favorite sites or Gameshows ?
I like When if its not staged (like CM or messy wrestling And the Gunge tank girl and Top gunge Of mostwam) when the girls are fully clothed (or gets naked later)
How sad, always look so good too. Sorry to say I personally never purchased form messy wrestling though did enjoy their previews. I just didn't trust some of the foreign web sites. With that being said I do subscribe to sindrive,which has some of messy wrestling's content but they should add more than they have.
And just how do the sob's pirate content. I only have access of various Wi-Fi hotspots. And unlike other sites have I've never been able to download. (only stream) So I could never watch in the comfort of my home.
Have spent many happy years being a member & watching this site and all the sites connected with it. I was a massive fan of My Fetish way back when it was a site on its own, Then it grew into Eromax and now Tainster with lots of different sites. The original videos were totally unbelievable with what seemed an endless budget. Stunning Models wearing hundreds of quality outfits messed ripped and destroyed. I wish I had copied them all then but if they ever make a DVD box set of all there clips & Videos from the early days upto now I will be 1st in line
Thats really sad. They were the reference in Mud Wrestling... They had several casual clothing messy wrestling which they were the only one producing on a regular basis.. Downloaddreams, Ariel and Eurowam had a few good mud wrestling with Casual clothes, but they all no longer produce them.
Set aside the illegal download and sharing. I'm probably missing the economics in this, maybe some producer can put some volume in % as a reference.. but How much more would sale a scene in bikini or formal clothing vs casual clothing, is the money that bad in that segment? I've legally bought pretty much every casual mud wrestling scene that were offered here over the last 20 years..
I also understand, I'm asking for a niche within a niche.. but it's kinda sad when you think that Casual Mud Wrestling is probably as mainstream as it gets for WAM fetish.
Ariel.. Leon.. Flaviu.. MudRacer.. will you save us?
I would had subscribed to messy-wrestling at some point due to the full-clothed mudwrestling and trashing of quality clothes, but the subscription fees used to be too expensive for me. But now I've been hesitant to purchase online there because my browsers' been flagging the site and its affiliates as unsafe. I would still love to get hold of those content before it goes under though.
But how much can you blame on piracy? Mud-related WAM as a whole is very niche in the fetish market, and it's even harder to find shared account info or publicly distributed content (I know from experience). What I suspect is that there isn't that much of a market for WAM anyway. Most people now are into videos of more mainstream fetishes or straight up porn. There's little room for niches anymore.
Hell, even the WAM scene on the UMD has retreated to messes that are the easiest to manage or are the cheapest to make. Mud WAM as a whole has actually fallen to the wayside in favor of pies, food and smile. Aside dwindling long-time producers, there are barely any new content creators producing mud-related content anymore. Classic paint WAM ala-Aquadisiac/Messyfun has pretty much vanished as well.
It's one of the reasons I barely come here anymore.
wam_guevara said: Thats really sad. They were the reference in Mud Wrestling... They had several casual clothing messy wrestling which they were the only one producing on a regular basis.. Downloaddreams, Ariel and Eurowam had a few good mud wrestling with Casual clothes, but they all no longer produce them.
Set aside the illegal download and sharing. I'm probably missing the economics in this, maybe some producer can put some volume in % as a reference.. but How much more would sale a scene in bikini or formal clothing vs casual clothing, is the money that bad in that segment? I've legally bought pretty much every casual mud wrestling scene that were offered here over the last 20 years..
I also understand, I'm asking for a niche within a niche.. but it's kinda sad when you think that Casual Mud Wrestling is probably as mainstream as it gets for WAM fetish.
Ariel.. Leon.. Flaviu.. MudRacer.. will you save us?
Cheers
I plan many things with a studio and can look at requests for such things. We are looking to get a studio running again in Oct/Nov, so long as we have a good sales month in September.
So all I can say is please keep supporting us and we can probably help. In the meantime, we have shot several casual clothed muddy scenes this year, but not wrestling, look out for them soon.
leonmoomin said: They got totally shafted by piracy!
A lesson I'm sure will fall on deaf ears.
I always thought the whole Allwam business model was strange - as soon as you signed up you got access to the entire back catalogue going back forever. So join for a month, download absolutely everything, cancel your subscription, job done. Gigabytes of content for a one-off one-month membership. I assume the idea was that they expected people to stay members for the new scenes every month, but what actually happened was people re-joined once a year, grabbed all the new content, and promptly cancelled again.
Personally I'm not that fussed about wrestling, the "clean to messy" tends to be way too fast, and in many cases (lots of sites, not just Allwam) the camera operator manages to miss the actual money shot of the girl's clean skirts or trousers going onto the mud or mess because they are pointlessly filming heads and top halves even though they know what is about to happen.
Regarding casual clothes in the mud though, we do a fair bit of that at langstonedale.com - check out the preview pages for samples.
DungeonMasterOne said: I always thought the whole Allwam business model was strange - as soon as you signed up you got access to the entire back catalogue going back forever. So join for a month, download absolutely everything, cancel your subscription, job done.
True, but the Messy-Wrestling site (which goes back two or three years) had an a la carte model.
And, personally, I don't need the gals to dawdle when they're getting messy....
leonmoomin said: They got totally shafted by piracy!
A lesson I'm sure will fall on deaf ears.
I always thought the whole Allwam business model was strange - as soon as you signed up you got access to the entire back catalogue going back forever. So join for a month, download absolutely everything, cancel your subscription, job done. Gigabytes of content for a one-off one-month membership. I assume the idea was that they expected people to stay members for the new scenes every month, but what actually happened was people re-joined once a year, grabbed all the new content, and promptly cancelled again.
EDIT: Snipped the original post because I confused Allwam with Mostwam.
But I thought Allwam scenes were only available for the duration of a year. Isn't that why people only subscribe once a year?
Thanks also to Nintendoeater93 for letting me know what Messy Wrestling said about no forthcoming updates. Great shame.
I loved how you didn't have to join anything, and could pay for just the scene you wanted, 6 credits then reduced to just 3. Incredible value for long-running scenes of such high quality!! And featuring mega-hot ladies. Camera work was first class too! Perhaps they should have charged more. I would have paid it. I practically bought all their mud releases.
So that's it. Unless I'm mistaken, there isn't anyone else out there producing mud wrestling matches on a regular, weekly basis.
leonmoomin said: They got totally shafted by piracy!
A lesson I'm sure will fall on deaf ears.
I always thought the whole Allwam business model was strange - as soon as you signed up you got access to the entire back catalogue going back forever. So join for a month, download absolutely everything, cancel your subscription, job done. Gigabytes of content for a one-off one-month membership. I assume the idea was that they expected people to stay members for the new scenes every month, but what actually happened was people re-joined once a year, grabbed all the new content, and promptly cancelled again.
EDIT: Snipped the original post because I confused Allwam with Mostwam.
But I thought Allwam scenes were only available for the duration of a year. Isn't that why people only subscribe once a year?
I was last a member of Allwam in 2013, so things may have changed, but it used to be when you joined Allwam, you got access to the entire back catalogue, all the way back to 2006. You also got access to several other sites. Back when we first launched Saturation Hall we used to charge $95 and give access to the entire catalogue, but that got unsustainable when the site content went past 500 GB (and that was SD resolution, our HD videos are much bigger), so we changed to rotating stuff off after six months. The current model seems to work reasonably well though if I was starting out today I wouldn't bother with a membership site, just a download store and perhaps streaming - which may be our next innovation, though still looking at the practicalities. Streaming wam video from a Jacobean manor house - that has to be a first!
wam_guevara said: Thats really sad. They were the reference in Mud Wrestling... They had several casual clothing messy wrestling which they were the only one producing on a regular basis.. Downloaddreams, Ariel and Eurowam had a few good mud wrestling with Casual clothes, but they all no longer produce them.
Set aside the illegal download and sharing. I'm probably missing the economics in this, maybe some producer can put some volume in % as a reference.. but How much more would sale a scene in bikini or formal clothing vs casual clothing, is the money that bad in that segment? I've legally bought pretty much every casual mud wrestling scene that were offered here over the last 20 years..
I also understand, I'm asking for a niche within a niche.. but it's kinda sad when you think that Casual Mud Wrestling is probably as mainstream as it gets for WAM fetish.
Ariel.. Leon.. Flaviu.. MudRacer.. will you save us?
Cheers
I plan many things with a studio and can look at requests for such things. We are looking to get a studio running again in Oct/Nov, so long as we have a good sales month in September.
So all I can say is please keep supporting us and we can probably help. In the meantime, we have shot several casual clothed muddy scenes this year, but not wrestling, look out for them soon.
Cheers
Hope the studio thing works out well!
I will def support casual mud when something new come out of the moomin vault Here are my favorite videos you have produced in that area.
wam_guevara said: Thats really sad. They were the reference in Mud Wrestling... They had several casual clothing messy wrestling which they were the only one producing on a regular basis.. Downloaddreams, Ariel and Eurowam had a few good mud wrestling with Casual clothes, but they all no longer produce them.
Set aside the illegal download and sharing. I'm probably missing the economics in this, maybe some producer can put some volume in % as a reference.. but How much more would sale a scene in bikini or formal clothing vs casual clothing, is the money that bad in that segment? I've legally bought pretty much every casual mud wrestling scene that were offered here over the last 20 years..
I also understand, I'm asking for a niche within a niche.. but it's kinda sad when you think that Casual Mud Wrestling is probably as mainstream as it gets for WAM fetish.
Ariel.. Leon.. Flaviu.. MudRacer.. will you save us?
Cheers
I plan many things with a studio and can look at requests for such things. We are looking to get a studio running again in Oct/Nov, so long as we have a good sales month in September.
So all I can say is please keep supporting us and we can probably help. In the meantime, we have shot several casual clothed muddy scenes this year, but not wrestling, look out for them soon.
Cheers
Subbed for 1 month depending on your the next few update definitely Considering To get the 6 month thingy . against more variation in the clothes
Cockie35 said: Interesting responses, thank you all.
Thanks also to Nintendoeater93 for letting me know what Messy Wrestling said about no forthcoming updates. Great shame.
I loved how you didn't have to join anything, and could pay for just the scene you wanted, 6 credits then reduced to just 3. Incredible value for long-running scenes of such high quality!! And featuring mega-hot ladies. Camera work was first class too! Perhaps they should have charged more. I would have paid it. I practically bought all their mud releases.
So that's it. Unless I'm mistaken, there isn't anyone else out there producing mud wrestling matches on a regular, weekly basis.