These were particularly interesting to edit. The US one had to have the kids and Gordon removed, which resulted in a great deal of cropping. The Poland one was the first clip that I've ever had raw footage to work with, which the MCJ Poland people had on their site. I spent a lot of time counting frames in order to line it up properly with the cuts from the fully edited show.
The sound being cut from chunks of it is intentional. If I left it in, it would sound like a jumbled mess.
After seeing multiple MJC clips, I've determined two things: 1) There's some GREAT footage that was shot on set for these stunts. 2) Thanks to truly awful editing, we're gonna see maaaaaybe 20% of it.
The U.S. version is the worst. That frosting gunging looked to be long and epic, but almost all of it disappears in the final cut. And the same woman also had "batter" dumped on her head this season, and the editing was so bad that it cuts from her (relatively) clean face to another shot of her whole face wiped, after it had clearly been covered... with an additional batter dump we never get to see.
Oh, it was immensely satisfying to have the raw footage from the Polish Version. They cut out a good deal of what was available in the raw. My edit is actually a composition of five separate clips that they had on their site:
Ania Ten krem mam dosownie wszdzie! Mamy przepyszny zwiastun 4. odcinka MasterChefa Juniora! Mateusz Kr sodyczy jest tylko jeden! Przeyjmy to jeszcze raz! Jurorzy MasterChef Junior kontra k Wielka kremowa kpiel! Nikt nie zosta ocalony!
Kind of unfortunately, there was a second woman who was stupidly hot and well dressed who did get messy. You can see her aftermath in this clip:
Michel i Magda To bya super zabawa!
I couldn't find enough material to stick into a video though (it was all in the little food-fight they had with the kids) and I wanted to keep the main video focused.
Overall though, I can see why they would want to cut the footage into pieces. As a whole, the raw video is rather boring unless you're specifically watching for that. The audience being catered to with these reality shows is looking for something relatively frenetic. Uncut, it's really just a bunch of people hanging around on a set. The editing adds the suspense and turns it into a story.
Also, I just realized that there was footage I missed on my first pass of the aftermath.... Back to the editor!
But do you see what I'm talking about, even in your "extended aftermath"? The initial gunging is for hair fans only. At some point, she gets some on her face... and some kind of bucket on her head... and then a couple cupcakes too... But we only see blink-and-miss-it excerpts.
Don't get me wrong, I assume it's better than what the show gave us, but I guess in this day and age we're spoiled with actually SEEING real aftermath in most messy bits. That's the saving grace of many Latin American shows... Chega was great about this, the EEG games too to a certain extent. (DL was very hit-or-miss, it depended on the camera guy. But the live nature made it harder for them to edit out aftermath.)
But I get the reasoning. "We've got 30 minutes of confessionals with 8 year-olds... Chop the messy stuff down to 10 seconds and move on..."
Obviously it's never going to be perfect. Besides a few extreme exceptions (CM/DL), this world is never going to produce material which is focused around our tastes. We are essentially scavengers trying to make the most of the little we get from mainstream media.
That's why I do what I do, as a public service to convert the garbage most shows get edited to into something which is at least somewhat palatable.
That Polish Clip for example took 4 hours to cut up, reassemble, and cut people out of. It's about as good as you can get given the material the show provided.
ABGamma said: Obviously it's never going to be perfect. Besides a few extreme exceptions (CM/DL), this world is never going to produce material which is focused around our tastes. We are essentially scavengers trying to make the most of the little we get from mainstream media.
That's why I do what I do, as a public service to convert the garbage most shows get edited to into something which is at least somewhat palatable.
That Polish Clip for example took 4 hours to cut up, reassemble, and cut people out of. It's about as good as you can get given the material the show provided.
4 hours?? GEEZ. That's insane! I'll be honest... If I'm throwing something up on YT, I'm just gonna edit down to the relevant bits and then leave it "as is." Unlike our one friend (ahem), I don't swipe other people's content and re-upload in crappier quality... My service is mainly putting rare footage back out there into the world, in the best quality available.
But editing out kids (and guys) is a very UMD-specific thing. YouTube as a whole doesn't care. TellyGunge doesn't care. I learned my lesson when I spent a long time editing all the kids out of a great pie scene from Thundermans... and then YT pulled it for copyright violation. That was wasted time I'll never get back!
(FYI you can still find that same clip, but in lower quality than mine, on jucmehoff's page. Like all his clips, it doesn't bother to edit out minors. Like all his clips, it's got a generic title. And unlike my labor of love, his clip didn't get pulled. There's a moral there... somewhere...)
ABGamma said: Obviously it's never going to be perfect. Besides a few extreme exceptions (CM/DL), this world is never going to produce material which is focused around our tastes. We are essentially scavengers trying to make the most of the little we get from mainstream media.
That's why I do what I do, as a public service to convert the garbage most shows get edited to into something which is at least somewhat palatable.
That Polish Clip for example took 4 hours to cut up, reassemble, and cut people out of. It's about as good as you can get given the material the show provided.
Thanks for taking the time to carry out this...thankless task.
ABGamma said: Obviously it's never going to be perfect. Besides a few extreme exceptions (CM/DL), this world is never going to produce material which is focused around our tastes. We are essentially scavengers trying to make the most of the little we get from mainstream media.
That's why I do what I do, as a public service to convert the garbage most shows get edited to into something which is at least somewhat palatable.
That Polish Clip for example took 4 hours to cut up, reassemble, and cut people out of. It's about as good as you can get given the material the show provided.
4 hours?? GEEZ. That's insane! I'll be honest... If I'm throwing something up on YT, I'm just gonna edit down to the relevant bits and then leave it "as is." Unlike our one friend (ahem), I don't swipe other people's content and re-upload in crappier quality... My service is mainly putting rare footage back out there into the world, in the best quality available.
Yeah, for that clip I had to:
First find the clips on the Polish MCJ website Determine all the cuts in the five clips and split them into pieces Match the cuts in the final aired version with the same points in time in the raw Stabilize the footage manually (frame by frame process) Animate the cropping for each clip (frame by frame process) Play around with different orderings and different versions of what footage to keep and what to drop so that it feels at least somewhat cohesive and not too jumpy Learn to isolate voices from background music (which I did on the aftermath and not the main clip)
It gets pretty involved. If I went truly crazy with it, I could also potentially do some color correction on the raw to make it more similar to the aired version.
For CM on the other hand, there's no thought. I've done something like 700 of them now, so I've got that down to a science. I can process a CM episode in about a half hour to an hour depending on how many clips there are.
Hey - top marks for the Polish edit - I was actually half way through creating an edit myself before I saw this!
Interesting to note that you chose to cut as much male material as possible - even if it was at the cost of more views of the females. (e.g. when she helps drag the second guy under the frosting). I know some folks having any males in the clip is a turn off - but that was a tough call for me.
Anyways - the latest episode, which aired Sunday, featured a chocolate pool. No videos up on the official site yet - not sure how long they take (I know because I saw a teaser for it at end of previous weeks episode).
The female definitely goes in and gets full coverage - however, it looks chaotic and like a kid-less edit will be almost impossible to pull together. I'll keep an eye out for sure.
EDIT - Sorry, I should say I assume it aired Sunday, just because their site says it airs on Sundays and this is the next episode. But, they maybe skip weeks - so I can't be certain. But whenever they DO air the next ep - this will be in it!
Here are some pics from the chocolate scene, maybe someone can find a clip. By the way, the lady in the pics (the chef lady) is Anna Starmach, but did you know the name of the other woman involved in the messy stuff in the frosting scene?