John Smith said: Came across these screenshots. Does anyone know the source?

mr_pink said:
The cigarette holder and white chair looks a lot like Lenny's work, so possibly available via Wamtec

Stealthman said:
This video wasn't produced by Lenny but rather Pheobe Rodriguez, as people have already pointed out. (Technically, it was Pheobe's then-boyfriend who was actually making the videos and who actually cared about WAM, but that's a whole different rabbit hole...)

Something I've learned from SlapstickStuff Rich is that back in the 1990s and into the 2000s, Lenny self-funded a ridiculous amount of customs from various producers, which all had the same motif of a girl smoking from a vintage cigarette holder and then getting pied.

So, if you ever run into a 20+ year old WAM video and it features a girl smoking and then getting pied, chances are, it was probably funded and/or created by Lenny.

PierreLePie said:
And if you see videos with sweaters probably was me!

RIP Lenny & Phoebe

fishtank said:
I'm I correct in thinking, Lenny shot a video for you with and it descended into chaos. One of the models became aggressive. And he vowed never to work with her again. I just remember the model dressed in jumpers?

fishtank said:
I'm I correct in thinking, Lenny shot a video for you with and it descended into chaos. One of the models became aggressive. And he vowed never to work with her again. I just remember the model dressed in jumpers?

John Smith said: Came across these screenshots. Does anyone know the source?

Stealthman said:

This video wasn't produced by Lenny but rather Pheobe Rodriguez, as people have already pointed out. (Technically, it was Pheobe's then-boyfriend who was actually making the videos and who actually cared about WAM, but that's a whole different rabbit hole...)

Something I've learned from SlapstickStuff Rich is that back in the 1990s and into the 2000s, Lenny self-funded a ridiculous amount of customs from various producers, which all had the same motif of a girl smoking from a vintage cigarette holder and then getting pied.

So, if you ever run into a 20+ year old WAM video and it features a girl smoking and then getting pied, chances are, it was probably funded and/or created by Lenny.

SlapstickStuff said:
All of this is accurate.

It's definitely a Phoebe video, I ordered it on VHS back in the day from the woman herself. (Who was really her BF, but again. Rabbit hole.)

This was a friend of hers, who had a great "resting bitch face" as we used to say back in the day. I remember wanting her to return, but I'm fairly sure she was a one-and-done. (Or if she came back, it was so disappointing I blocked it from memory.)

SlapstickStuff said:
All of this is accurate.

It's definitely a Phoebe video, I ordered it on VHS back in the day from the woman herself. (Who was really her BF, but again. Rabbit hole.)

This was a friend of hers, who had a great "resting bitch face" as we used to say back in the day. I remember wanting her to return, but I'm fairly sure she was a one-and-done. (Or if she came back, it was so disappointing I blocked it from memory.)

wamtec said: The strange thing about Lenny and the many smoking and pies videos he made, is that I knew Lenny for 25 years, and he was a total non-smoker and a non-drinker. He never smoked or drank alcohol in the many times he visited me at my old house. He was never obsessed with smoking whenever we made wam scenes together. He was just like myself, a non smoker and a non drinker who was only focused on sploshing the girls.

People who are into shooting bondage scenes are usually into bondage themselves, so it puzzled me why Lenny made so many smoking oriented pie videos when he never was never interested in the act of smoking himself.

I have a gut feeling that for Lenny, it was not about cigarettes at all, but it was more about the the phallic symbolism of using a cigarette holder, cos he always had his pie video models using cigarette holders, and it did not seem to matter to him whether the cigarette was lit or not.

In the 1990s we made hundreds of custom videos, and some videos involved wam with other offshoot fetishes. For example, we made many videos where the girl was not only performing in wam substances, but the custom video sponsor also sent us a box of eye glasses, and insisted that every 5 minutes that that the girl had to put on a new pair of eye glasses and admire herself in the mirror.

We also shot many sweater fetish videos as well, but these were not pie videos, and the guy wanted us to shoot wetlook videos with sweaters. The sponsor would ship me huge boxes with 50-60 expensive Angora Wool and Mohair sweaters. He used to spend 3-4 times more money on buying sweaters than he spent on the model fees. We had sweater girl pool parties and 8-10 sweaterized models.....and this totally messed up my pool for many days, cos the dye in the sweaters turned my pool red with dye, it looked like I was shooting a horror film, and all the hair clogged up the filter in my pool for days.

As for Lenny and the model who went bananas.....I was not on the set when he met Kayla Cupcakes.....but the most famous incident where I was there was when Lenny was shooting a model with the initials A.M. -- and she suddenly went ballistic for no reason at all. There is a famous saying that all film extras and b movie actresses know when working on a video or film production. It is called "hurry up and wait"....because Directors are always calling for actresses to be ready, and then there are various delays due to props or film crew stagings...so you have to be a patent actress to work on a wam video. 99% of Lenny's girls were real troopers who were very patient and professional and willing to wait for Lenny and his crew to be ready. This one girl, A.M., ujed her downtime to polish off a bottle of wine while she was waiting, and then the alcohol kicked in and then she erupted at Lenny and went bonkers.

As for Phoebe, I met her and her boyfriend when they came to my ranch and Lenny and I shot several scenes that day with Phoebe. I felt sorry for her because in all the shoots we did she had a look on her face like "a deer in the headlights" and she was merely being egged on by her Svengali-like boyfriend.

Such is the life of a wam producer.

Stealthman said:
Rich, I think I might be taking over your unofficial role as "WAM/UMD historian" ha ha!

wamtec said: I think I have been the unofficial WAM Historian as far as TV scenes and Movie scenes go, cos I have documented over 30,000 wam scenes in my database archives for the last 34 years. 5 years ago I created a daily blog called The History of WAM on my Patreon channel, and so far I have blogged about 8000 wam scenes on tv and movies since then.

But I only record wam data on tv and movie scenes dating back to 1905. I don't track data on the History of WAM models. I only record data on movie and tv shows...so that task is left to someone else.