I always feel like if I could, I would switch my foot fetish off. It's too distracting in everyday life, and the foot fetish community is too weird and obsessive. I can't explain what I like about feet, and I can't be doing with people having debates about whether Avril Lavigne's little toe is as good as her others.
WAM, on the other hand, is just cool, and I wouldn't change it for the world. I love that I'm turned on by it, and I feel like it's a beneficial part of a sexual arousal toolkit. The WAM community is generally awesome. Plus I can explain, in unnecessary detail, why I like WAM.
If you could turn yourself on or off to another fetish, which would you choose? And where does WAM sit with this?
Pie Punk said: I have two pretty strong fetishes - WAM and feet.
I always feel like if I could, I would switch my foot fetish off. It's too distracting in everyday life, and the foot fetish community is too weird and obsessive. I can't explain what I like about feet, and I can't be doing with people having debates about whether Avril Lavigne's little toe is as good as her others.
WAM, on the other hand, is just cool, and I wouldn't change it for the world. I love that I'm turned on by it, and I feel like it's a beneficial part of a sexual arousal toolkit. The WAM community is generally awesome. Plus I can explain, in unnecessary detail, why I like WAM.
If you could turn yourself on or off to another fetish, which would you choose? And where does WAM sit with this?
I'm curious, because I've never been able to explain why I like WAM, why do you like WAM?
and it's true these things really do just pick you, it really feels like WAM was hardwired into me from those childhood days of Nickelodeon. I've never known how to put that into words with a partner. I've done some awesome whipped cream play in the past with partners though.
I can relate to you saying feet get in the way of day to day life. A body part that's always exposed on as women. I always have a quick look but don't stare as I feel like someone will catch me. I wouldn't turn the fetish off I just got to be aware that I can't just be a creep and stare haha. Lucky my mrs full fill me foot fetish so it does take the edge off.
WAM Fetish is good. It's not like day to day you see women getting messy in public or thought I sometimes wish it was. How ever I've had a couple of times where I've seen messy in public. At a beach party a girl got egged she didn't even seemed worried and went into the ocean to wash off. And multiple times for wet look like girls jumping in a pool or river clothed. It's not really a massive turn on but if there wearing leggings the water looks so shiny and hot.
I definitely believe fetishes are hard-wired into us, and certain "triggers" eventually set them off. Such was the case for me. I found myself liking seeing women wearing pantyhose or socks before I knew why. I imagined, and even drew, women covered in mud or black paint, etc. waaay before I knew it was a thing (and I skew younger on this site, so this website was well underway by that time), feeling like a freak for years. And another fetish of mine (one that is relatively tame on the "extreme" scale, but so odd and niche that I'm slightly embarrassed to disclose it even on a WAM forum ) is something I definitely felt alone in until learning it was a "thing." It was my predominant fetish for several years, but recently my enjoyment of WAM has overtaken it.
So, with that being said, I'm pretty happy with these "Big 3" fetishes I have, but I enjoy watching WAM the most. There's something about grown adults actively getting messy and covered in different substances that is incredibly exhilarating, naughty, freakish (don't mean this in a demeaning way at all), and inherently voyeuristic if one is watching it. It can easily masquerade as just goofy fun if it isn't XXX, even if the messy subject is aroused doing it (assuming they have very good self-control lol). I think that's why, even as a straight male, I can every blue moon be aroused witnessing a man jerking off while covered in mud or chocolate; it's just so extreme and far left of a thing. With pantyhose/socks/feet, I'm purely turned on by women with this, and it can be fun if a woman is actively "teasing" in public as it's not obvious to anyone without the fetish but is extremely erotic if you have it (speaking of actual fetish content where women show off pantyhose/socked feet in public places while their phone camera is sitting on the ground near their purse or something).
I'd probably choose not to have one at all - or certainly not one quite so divergent and distracting.
I've been lucky enough to be able to indulge mine in recent years but, over my thus far half-century of life, I think it's been the cause of far more problems than joys.
Pie Punk said: I have two pretty strong fetishes - WAM and feet.
I always feel like if I could, I would switch my foot fetish off. It's too distracting in everyday life, and the foot fetish community is too weird and obsessive. I can't explain what I like about feet, and I can't be doing with people having debates about whether Avril Lavigne's little toe is as good as her others.
WAM, on the other hand, is just cool, and I wouldn't change it for the world. I love that I'm turned on by it, and I feel like it's a beneficial part of a sexual arousal toolkit. The WAM community is generally awesome. Plus I can explain, in unnecessary detail, why I like WAM.
If you could turn yourself on or off to another fetish, which would you choose? And where does WAM sit with this?
I'd choose to be sexually attracted to thick people because it would make it really easy to find a partner
Seriously though, I'd never thought about how annoying/distracting it would be to have a fetish for something everyday that's hard to avoid, like feet or shoes. I think a sneezing kink (which exists) would fall into this category too, it would be really awkward on a day-to-day basis and in workplace and family settings. I love your description of WAM as part of a toolkit - that's exactly how I see it as well, it's a way of connecting with someone, a great extra in one's sexual repertoire.
If I had to pick an additional fetish, I'd probably go with suits/formal wear. I don't have a hard-wired kink for this (I almost always just wear a t-shirt and shorts for WAM sessions) but I can see how the combination of WAM and formal wear is really hot and kind of subversive, I think having a hard-wired kink for it would be great. I have a friend who is super-into armpits and I think that's a pretty good kink too.
A fetish I'm glad I don't have? Most of the common ones, from the BDSM spectrum through to furries, pups, cross-dressing etc. Life's too short to put on a rubber dog mask and call yourself Fido. I think one of the creepiest fetishes is gaining/force-feeding, because aside from being unhealthy a lot of it seems to be about control. I had a WAM session with a guy who was a feeder once, and he told me his ultimate sexual fantasy was to go for a pub meal with his (imaginary) boyfriend and friends and family, and his boyfriend would make a scene by gorging himself and eating messily in front of everyone, then they would all go off for an after-dinner hike in the country and his boyfriend would have to stay in the car because he was too fat and bloated to walk. He was really turned on by the idea of having a partner become physically immobile. That's fucked up.
I have been known to mutter (usually during clean up) that I wish I had a fettish that didn't require quite so much prep and clean up. There are scenes that can be done in an evening but a whole day or two is more common.
That said, I don't really mean it. Of all the things I could have a kink for, it's certainly a fun one and can range from sensual to sexual, a reward to a punishment.
I've been lucky that I've been able to explore with my partner almost the whole time I've known it to be a fettish of mine. My partner's kinks are all more BDSM leaning and the bondage especially crosses over nicely with WAM. I think we've both inherited aspects of eachothers kinks as a result. Also means we've accumulated loads of equipment, mostly stored in the bedroom but some bits inevitably spill out to other places about the house. I recall a conversation my partner had with a friend when she noticed 4 cans of squirty cream in the fridge, luckily close enough that a little of the truth could come out.
I wouldn't choose to change, we are who we are after all so might as well enjoy it if we aren't doing anyone else any harm.
The only thing I'd change is that feeling of being alone in your fetish until you discover it's a thing. That feeling is horrible, thinking you're a freak and not being able to accept who you are.
I wish I'd always known that there were others like me and that WAM is actually totally awesome as are the majority of the people who do it!
At least for me, I find it very easy to ignore urges, sexual or otherwise. As a result, WAM (specifically mud) is something I really only think about or indulge in on my own time. Would I change my mud fetish? Nah. Mud is amazing and finally indulging in it this year was the best decision I ever made.. That said, my acceptance has come from my ability to draw a firm line between my fetish and my day-to-day life. If I didn't have that separation and it constantly got in my way, I would feel much different.
If I could choose, I would choose to have zero sexual desire towards anything. Life would be so much easier. I would have way more time, and way more money in my pocket.
TL: DR... wanted it gone, told some friends about it, they wanna try it, now I film, and sell it.
Years ago, I wished that I didn't have my WAM fetish. I was really closed off with it; felt ashamed of it, and just didn't want it at all. I was the quiet, bullied kid in school, so when it came to people asking me about general sexual stuff, I'd always shut down, and try to ignore people.
Now I'm older, I've met, and become friends who are more open sexually, have helped me come out of my shell, and I know quite a few sex workers. If the people I knew at school saw me now, they'd wonder what happemed. That said, I still keep my fetish fairly secret; trusted people only. Strangely, out of those I have told, it's only told my female friends though. They seem to be easier to talk to. This could be psychological remnants from school as it was mainly lads who would pick on me.
Of the friends I have told, quite a few of them have expressed interest in trying it, and I've explained to them what it's like. One in particular whom you're all aware of, if you've seen previous posts from me was super excited to try it out. I eventually told her about it after an off-handed comment about her gunging me when doing a game streaming session (this never happened). We got talking about it, and I said that if she wanted to try it, she's more than welcome to come over. She was both intrigued, and terrified, but that later turned into excitement, and really wanting it. We both suggested filming it, and I explained this site, so she researched more. In effect, this has turned into a fetish for her.
As for other fetishes, I wouldn't say they're a "fetish" for me, but more preferences when getting messy. Long hair, for a start; the longer, the better. A sleeveless top, so showing her shoulders. I thank Heather from Live & Kicking for unlocking that one. She looked amazing in the gunge. Would have preferred her hair down though, but what can you do. And finally, bare legs with closed toe shoes; whether it be pumps, or heels. If there's a strap across the shoe, that's better somehow. Toes are weird to me, especially the bottom of feet.
Lastly, I want to thank this community for giving me the confidence to be able to tell people about this, and allowing me, and others to open up about it. Whilst I'm still relatively secretive about it publically, and won't show my face here, it's still a great place to be able to share things. I appreciate you all.
As a follow up to my previous comment, I'll just add that I come from a relatively religious/faith-based background where I don't imagine this sort of thing would be readily understood or accepted. If you were to ask this question 4+ years ago, I would have been too ashamed of my WAM fetish to even have an account here, so I wouldn't have answered. But I would have felt like others and just wish I didn't have any fetish. A part of me still wishes I didn't so that I didn't deal with conflicted, confused feelings for so long, and obviously I'd save money. That said, the other side of me (which I've more of less embraced over the past 3 years, with the occasional rare shame or guilt) knows that trying to "rid myself" of a fetish doesn't work, and that (so long as they don't consume my entire waking existence or involve harming anyone) they aren't detrimental in any way on their own. On those conditions, now I feel like, as an adult, what I like is my own business and any sexual/romantic partner's business. These fetishes can also potentially provide fun in a relationship if a partner is into trying it and ends up enjoying it (not the sort of thing I'd force). And some of the, say, mud videos I've watched, I'm personally glad I've gotten to see people doing things in the mud that I thought were only in the recesses of my mind before, not only for the sexual excitement, but also to make me feel less alone in enjoying/understanding the appeal of that sort of thing.
I've had my moments of doubt and self loathing like most people, but the only times I still think it would have been useful not to have my WAM fetish is at muddy music festivals, where I used to get pent-up walking around in the mud all weekend and not able to enjoy it in the way I would like. If anything, I mostly wish I'd been more honest with myself and let myself get more active in my various weird interests earlier in life. And that goes especially for things like furry, which straddles an odd space between fetish and subculture, but has actually opened up social circles and interactions that have been really fulfilling to me.
Aww now this is a post to get you really thinking..... I get that WAM and my own crossdressing fetish is very distracting, not to mention time consuming, costly and complicated but would I want it gone?? I suppose in some respects we all have that default option that we can masterbate to eliminate the urges but lets be honest, we all want to see how it plays out and take it to the extreme, isn't that what life is about exploring and pushing boundaries? I think we are the fortunate red pilled group that have taken that jump and embraced who we are and have experienced that emotion that no real average sex life can take you to.
I have always felt sorry for those who have not discovered a fetish or realised who they are deep down, have yet to experience that rush, that intensity and ecstasy and are simply blank canvasses. We are the lucky ones, alright some of you are fuckin daft but mostly.....!
I have two fetishes. The primary one is women's pantyhose-clad feet, and the other, of course, is WAM.
And TBH, I wouldn't trade EITHER of them for any other. Being turned on by female nylon feet and WAM is part of who I am. And frankly, I'm damn proud of it.
I honestly don't know what I'd choose, but I have to admit that, sometimes, I really do wonder what it must be like to be more "normal" - you know...a guy who likes brunettes with nice boobs, long legs, and pretty smiles...instead of a guy who's into gunge and (even more so) spanking with other guys.
I'm not delusional enough to think that normal desires, alone, would be enough to make me any more popular (and certainly not delusional enough to think they'd make me any more attractive to anyone else), but at least I'd be able to talk with other people in my everyday life about the people (and kinks) I find attractive.
Pie Punk said: I have two pretty strong fetishes - WAM and feet.
If you could turn yourself on or off to another fetish, which would you choose? And where does WAM sit with this?
That's interesting, that you have interests in both WAM and feet.
My actual fetish is deep mud. In this world, feet are only mentioned as a unit of measure, as in, "Wow! That mudpit is five feet deep!".
If I could have a choice, though, I might actually try changing mine out for feet.
Feet are readily available. I have two of my very own. And I have dabbled in adding mine to my mud videos. Muddy foot play is relaxing and fun.
I've also used my feet as art models.
But I really don't have a foot fetish. My feet were used because they are always there. And they both consented to be filmed. They also didn't mind having their shoes removed so they could model to be painted or drawn.
I'd probably get ripped off on the voyeur front, though. Girls wear open-toed shoes and sandals much more than guys do.
So I wouldn't have many opportunities to quietly ogle attractive male feet.
WAMOptimist93 said: As a follow up to my previous comment, I'll just add that I come from a relatively religious/faith-based background where I don't imagine this sort of thing would be readily understood or accepted. If you were to ask this question 4+ years ago, I would have been too ashamed of my WAM fetish to even have an account here, so I wouldn't have answered. But I would have felt like others and just wish I didn't have any fetish. A part of me still wishes I didn't so that I didn't deal with conflicted, confused feelings for so long, and obviously I'd save money. That said, the other side of me (which I've more of less embraced over the past 3 years, with the occasional rare shame or guilt) knows that trying to "rid myself" of a fetish doesn't work, and that (so long as they don't consume my entire waking existence or involve harming anyone) they aren't detrimental in any way on their own. On those conditions, now I feel like, as an adult, what I like is my own business and any sexual/romantic partner's business. These fetishes can also potentially provide fun in a relationship if a partner is into trying it and ends up enjoying it (not the sort of thing I'd force). And some of the, say, mud videos I've watched, I'm personally glad I've gotten to see people doing things in the mud that I thought were only in the recesses of my mind before, not only for the sexual excitement, but also to make me feel less alone in enjoying/understanding the appeal of that sort of thing.
I'd keep my WAM fetish but wish I could add to it that I'd get turned on by getting soaking wet in the rain. Unfortunately the rain is so cold here in the UK, even in summer, that the temperature drop from being soaked in the rain far outweighs any pleasure I might otherwise get from the wetting.
Just as well that we don't choose our fetishes - just finished pieing myself for the first time in a few months and the bathroom stinks of rancid cream now. Probably wouldn't choose pies if I had the choice and shaving cream just doesn't do it for me.
My other fetish of watches is a bit easier to live with day to day, though it can be very embarassing when I get turned on by a hot guy's watch in a meeting - especially if they also happen to notice that I'm wearing two and ask why.
Not sure what fetishes I'd like to be into - uniforms perhaps. I also wondered about people who have a medical mask fetish (that MUST exist) and how they felt in the pandemic when it was impossible to get away from the object of their fetish.
piefrog said: My other fetish of watches is a bit easier to live with day to day, though it can be very embarassing when I get turned on by a hot guy's watch in a meeting - especially if they also happen to notice that I'm wearing two and ask why.
Out of interest, do you have any idea how your two-watch fetish came about? Was there a formative male figure in your early life who wore two watches?
piefrog said: My other fetish of watches is a bit easier to live with day to day, though it can be very embarassing when I get turned on by a hot guy's watch in a meeting - especially if they also happen to notice that I'm wearing two and ask why.
Out of interest, do you have any idea how your two-watch fetish came about? Was there a formative male figure in your early life who wore two watches?
no idea to be honest - didn't really like watches as a child, and then just before puberty they became an obsession - certainly didn't know anybody else who wore two.
It would have been nice to have got a simpler and easier kink to prepare for, clean up etc., and something thats more mainstream so I wouldn't have had years of shame for having such a "weird" fantasy, thinking I was the only one.
However, WAM can be very often done alone, so we don't have to necessarily find play partners like a lot of BDSMers do, so its nice as an introvert... and has the rare benefit of being a kink which even in a non-sexual way it is fundamentally very *fun*. When I opened up to my partner about it, she said she was very relieved that I was into wam, as she said "it shows you're a very playful person". I think it reflects well on our personalities even if we totally didn't chose to be this way, and overall wouldn't change it.
DoctorSmudge said: WAM has the rare benefit of being a kink which even in a non-sexual way it is fundamentally very *fun*. When I opened up to my partner about it, she said she was very relieved that I was into wam, as she said "it shows you're a very playful person". I think it reflects well on our personalities even if we totally didn't chose to be this way, and overall wouldn't change it.
Would keep the WAM fetish. I've come clean to my girlfriend about it (didn't straight up say I was into WAM but I did confess that the first time I beat it was to Katy Perry getting slimed and she didn't think it was weird at all). That being said, there are some things I would change about it.
1. Be able to get off to scripted scenes again as opposed to like totally candid things (eg someone in a dress playing in a mud pit vs a prank video of a dude playing a prank on his sister where he sprays her with some foam gun while she's in some sort of long "party dress" and soaks her from head to toe.
2. Be able to get off to things other than maxi dresses. Not as much of a factor but that's what I search every time I come on this site.
3. I would just really like to know the degree to which I'm actually into this stuff. I have zero desire to get pied/slimed/any of that stuff.
4. I was gonna say not have a maxi dress fetish as a whole but I somewhat feel like that might benefit my gf when it gets warm again if she wants to go somewhere but doesn't want to shave her legs or something so here's to her hopefully having a solid collection of them this time next year.
Some of the comments here have helped me reflect a little. I sometimes have a difficult time with WAM, because I feel like it's awkward to bring up in real life conversations. I'm already extremely shy and introverted, so if I'm ever able to develop a romantic relationship with someone, I become very careful about it to a fault, which only makes things worse. It's also awkward to practise it in a casual way, for me at least.
That said, I've developed other fetishes that I would probably much rather get rid of if I had the choice. Legs, particularly in pantyhose, is a tough one because it's very difficult (though thankfully, in my case at least, not impossible) to fight the instinct to be a pervert in everyday situations. Even more so, I'd probably much rather not fantasise about being humiliated and beaten, with occasional strays into being the beater. The thing I find with S&M is that it becomes less and less morally or socially justifiable the further you go, and the scene is so widely populated by people who make me uncomfortable on that front. WAM, in contrast, has a fun and absurd element at its heart I think, and the community is small enough to have an active supportive element. I really liked that comment from above about how it shows we're playful.
I think more than anything, knowing that choosing or getting rid of my fetishes is extremely difficult or next to impossible, I'd rather just have access to some quality mental health services so I can go through it all in a safe space, on my own time, without a significant financial cost. Or, idk, just have a domme next door who's willing to WAM me at a moment's notice. Not sure which of those is more likely tbh.