Wet Orchid said: Thanks for the reply muddyV
So you mean doing messy naked Is your thing?

DungeonMasterOne said: I think there's a larger market for messy scenes, mainly because fewer people do them. Wetlook is incredibly easy to get into, just put some clothes on and get into the shower, bath, or go wading in the nearest river, lake, or the sea. As a result wetlook is a (pardon the pun) ultra-saturated market with thousands of models and producers, making it very difficult to really stand out, plus you're competing with bigh Eastern European producers who can bang scenes out for $2 a go.

Messy scenes on the other hand are a whole different ballgame, because the requirements, setup, and cleanup, are all significant work, far fewer people produce messy scenes - so there's more room for any given producer to stand out and be noticed.

A previous poster has advocated for nude and/or bikini scenes, I'd balance that by saying that as far as I'm concerned, if it's not fully clothed it's not WAM, and skimpy bikinis are the worst of all worlds - person might as well be naked from a clothed-wam POV, except nude fans will be annoyed that the important areas are covered up, so a fail on every level. Although there are also fans of actual bikinis, the same way there are swimsuit fans, though I'm not sure how large a market there is for bikini wam.

From a practical POV, if you shoot nude wam then you'll find yourself competing with very major mainstreanm porn producers who throw wam in as a sideline. Do it clothed and your only competing with other clothed wam producers.

Oil scenes kind of "cross the streams" between wetlook and messy, as you've noticed, soak denim in oil and you get absolutely stunning glistening effects, "more wetlook than wetlook" is how I've seen it described before. In UMD terms oil counts as messy and must be promoted in the Messy forum, though some other wetlook forums will allow you to post oil as a form of wetlook.

I'd definitely be interested in seeing any oil scenes you come up with, purchase decisions would be based on how it's filmed, can we properly see your whole outfit going from clean and dry to oiled, can we properly see lower body and legs getting oiled, and is the camera steady, and without zoomed in close-ups that cut off important areas of the shot.

Messyshoes1985 said: I love the jeans and hoodie look! And sneakers! I use mayonnaise most of the time but oil is the same feel. I would recommend wearing something you honestly like or that was expensive it adds to the feeling of teasing something you like.

sauceboss said: Oh absolutely, I'd love to see you trash your clothes in oil, especially since you seem to get soaked in whatever you happen to have on when the mood strikes. Oil is going to completely ruin that outfit, would you consider ripping it up too?

Messyshoes1985 said: Do you have any silver brand jeans?

Samurai11 said: This makes me really happy to hear! I like your fun style on here. Love to see some jeans and sneakers, striped socks, overalls in any kind of mess/ mud. Good luck with your next WAM adventure.

Wet Orchid said: Hey WAM friends (learned that term less than a year ago)
I've done so many wetlook videos and pictures as of late and I get so many requests for messy scenes. I think I might be ready for my first messy scene. I'm a real newborn to this so i have to get some feedback on what is messy.
I would think that getting messy in oil (cooking oil) fully clothed would be super hot for me. I've seen some videos of girls getting messy with oil with their jeans on and I've found that sexy.
My question to the messy world is..if my first messy session was fully clothed with a whole bunch of oil, would that be exiting and generate some interest, really want to explore this messy world but have to ease my way into it. Let me know if I soak myself with oil fully clothed is something the messy world would wanna see and in what clothing. I will wear anything for this first scene
Thanks so much

Wet Orchid