This hasn't really happened to me before, but am I losing interest in WAM? Am I getting "burned out" or maybe it's my other non-WAM stuff going on in life (let's not go there).

My interest inverted pretty quickly too, I was surprised how quick it was. Let's just say I was WAM-less for 2+ years from 2020 to 2022, and then I got into tons of WAM actions early this year, including the in-person type. Gotta release all that pent up sexual repression after being in exile for 2 years right?!? I met a couple of ladies locally too, and got them in on the WAM action. You'd think I would be thrilled.

But these days, it does feel a bit like a "chore". Don't get me wrong, I'm still sexually turned on by it, but at the same time I'm not as horny as I used to be. I remember in our last intimate play time I had trouble climaxing (which was kind of embarrassing - I don't think it's a health thing, as I can still cum on my own). But that was the point I realized... what the fuck is wrong with me?

I went away and came back more than once.

A little break and return can help remind you what you like.

I don't think it's anything "wrong" with you. We live in Interesting Times, as the old Chinese curse goes, and I find myself equally distracted by everything else going on in the world and in the country around me to the point where, while not "burned out" completely, I just don't have the time or the energy to worry too much about fetishes, or sex in general. Without going too deep into all the rest of it, I can see where anyone who pays attention has good reason to be concerned and feel "burned out" on much of life in general these days. At least, I know *I* do anyway.

Yes.

Level of enjoyment definitely comes and goes, sometimes I feel I can't get enough of it, other times there's little-to-no interest.

I've found the best thing to do when interest wanes is just let it, invariably it comes back soon after. I used to worry about it and watch more and more content to try and make it come back, but I discovered for me at least that's counter-productive, the desire drops even lower. Taking my "foot off the gas" and backing off viewing content for a week or so tends to then see the desire come back up again. I'm guessing it's a natural cycle, as a result of getting older.

I literally just posted about this yesterday: https://umd.net/forums/wam-waves
It seems to be more common than I would have thought.

Yea. Like im almost tired of savory humiliation scenes.

Nothing out of the ordinary. Generally a lot of interests tend to ebb and flow, sometimes even interest in sex in general. For most of us WAM is a kink as opposed to a fetish (where it's a required element for sexual gratification) and other interests/kinks/etc pop up.

For me, there are definitely times where WAM is put aside due to other things in life. And there are even times where I'm still interested in WAM, but not enough to push past that it requires a lot of setup/cleanup effort and such.

I think my burn out is just with producer material. I'm not knocking producers in any way, they do a great job and work really hard. But I've found myself lately only interested in WAM from outside sources such as Youtube videos, TV shows (primarily foreign shows), the occasional music video, and those EEG/Combate type shows. I've gotten extremely picky with what producers make and the types of scenes I enjoy, but there are still a small handful of setups I'm interested in now. It's just fairly rare these days for me to see that stuff posted.

For the non producer stuff I'll follow, I need to be assured mess will happen in the future. The thoughts of the tv producer/writers maybe being into wam, and thinking the female victims on these shows may have some reluctance for getting messy all the time is still a big turn on for me. The show or youtube video also has to have a top notch production value. Shows like Chega Mais, EEG (mainly Panama), and now those youtube channels like Ratata and Multido are things I don't get burned out on at all.


The models or victims that get messy a lot, I'm always interested how mentally they feel after doing so many scenes, and were they ever really into it, did they understand the fetish, etc. I'd love to see more insight from the models. There are many I love and have loved on sites like Mostwam, and then one day they disappear and are done. A sit down conversation with a Mostwam group like Sky, Casey, Frankie and other models that have been in literally hundreds of scenes would be very interesting to listen to on this topic, but we'll probably never get that.

Simple, direct and correct.

I'm not tired of them, they have never resonated with me.
They seem closer to scat than WAM to me. :moon:

You can get burned out on anything, whether it be fetish material, or eating the same food too often. Variety is the key.

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It's perfectly normal for your interests to wax and wain. That goes for pretty much any and every interest rather than just the sexy stuff.
Burnout is somewhat less healthy- usually from overdoing it and pushing too hard to do too much of it in a short time, or grinding on and on and on and without a proper rest. Go careful and ease back, otherwise it can take a long long time to come back. Excessive burnout can kill your love for something alltogether.

Have a rest and take your time- we'll still be here when you decide to come back. The downtime will likely give you some fresh ideas to try out along with the renewed enthusiasm that comes with it.

I get what you mean.. not too long ago anything messy would trigger arousal for me.. IRL that is still the case, however what I consume here is getting more of a niche. Maybe testosterone no longer the same from 25 years ago.. Maybe like a hobby to collect anything.. my collection is quite elaborate and I'm now cherry picking gems to complete it.. TBH.. I still spend a lot of time browsing for wam content.. maybe it's part of me searching for that Gem.. Very good content I find now is not turning me upside down like before, but I still enjoy watching it with both hands on the keyboard.

I understand the importance to support our producers even if my interest have calm down. I pretty much always keep a subscription open somewhere to give something back to our producers.

From a pop psychology point of view, you can look at your brain chemicals.

For whatever reason, WAM triggers your happy brain chemicals.

After a while, your brain gets used to the happy brain chemicals, and it wants more happy chemicals to get happy. (this is the basis of addiction to anything that triggers happy brain chemicals)

You then need to change something in what you are doing to change up the happy chemicals.
Or, take a break from it, and let those sensors rest and forget.
Or find another way to appreciate it - like exploring it as a humiliation activity instead of a sensual activity (which changes the chemicals your body creates in response).

This is super simplified, but good enough for advice.

I don't know that it's possible to be burned out to the point of no longer having a fetish or kink. After all, I fantasized about a lot of WAM scenarios involving women far before I knew it was a fetish. It definitely is possible to be burned out from it either due to consumption habits or even if new material isn't to your tastes. I can't say I've ever been burned out of WAM in particular, but I've gone years where I didn't think about it much at all. This year in particular (maybe thanks to where I was mentally at the start of the year), I leaned into it HARD (probably too hard). I wouldn't say I'm losing interest in it at all, although I'm cooling off a bit, I think.

I think it does fade away and come back, sometimes in longer periods than you expect. Like you say no WAM from 2020 to 2022, so basically by then you're really ready for it, but then have enough to last you for a while.
I think age can be a factor too - I'm just in my 40's and suddenly noticed a drop in libido. I don't know the exact cause, but I have a little less sex drive than I used to and my orgasms are less powerful, to the point I've considered taking supplements to try and boost them.
I still love WAM and it always has been and always will be my fetish, but I just let it happen when it happens - I secretly kind of love the hold it has on me - when the desire to get messy DOES finally kick in, it actually consumes me to the point I have this wonderful abandonment of rationality; where the NEED to get messy becomes a key driver and it just has to happen. It's so insane and such a release.
But when I don't need it, I don't need it. Sometimes I really do, and sometimes I don't, or just checking in here for a little chat is all that I need, just to remind me I still love WAM even if I don't feel turned on at that moment.
As for loosing a hard on during a messy session, don't worry - I've noticed that sometimes the mess can actually slightly decrease sensitivity as you can loose the sensation of the rubbing that will bring you to orgasm, so extra effort is required to sustain it. Also you can become mentally desensitised because you've seen so much messy stuff that the initial buzz you have after some time without will not work anymore and you need kinkier activity to bring back the drive. It's just one of those things. If you're really stuck, maybe consider the little blue pill? I'm considering it - not done yet, but the thought has definitely crossed my mind.

Yes I think it is possible. I still enjoy other's wam content but getting messy myself doesn't turn me on like it used to. Think it could partly be that I'm now in a loving relationship with a non-wammer so I'm "satisfied" in other ways.

but also Human Garbage Disposal series should go to 100.

I've actually been experiencing this in recent years, to the point where I call it 'over-sensitized' and go completely limp. I've also just started on the little blue pill a few months ago and it helps bring me back about 80% of how I was in my twenties. (it even helps with the 'over-sensitized times) But sshhhh, don't tell everybody, next year I turn 70. Still going strong and my wife and I love wam and sex a lot.

It can happen. At a time? I was doing just customs customs. That's it.
Having to answering redundant emails and make sure everything was perfect and then rush to film it bc of the fear of someone going to messmaster
Then doing my absolute best to do it, have fun while doing it but then? They wanted it literally THAT DAY. So I would have zero rest and stay up editing their stuff.
That made it to where it took some of the fun out of it.
Especially on days I had lots of gals here. I wanted everything perfect. I would prep for a week before they got here and still l, something would go wrong.
So? This summer I took a break from them I did almost all my own stuff except a couple of things that people would help buy the supplies or tip me a little to help pay my camera man. Worked out well bc not really anyone can afford them as of this spring and summer.
It really shifted my balance
Lots more laughs, behind the scenes stuff, stuff I never thought to do but did
Just been really fun but now I'm back to wanting to make things for people. I DO truly enjoy making things come to life just took a summer of my own stuff to awaken the wammer in me again. Fully.
So? I'd say in your case? Yeah man. Maybe take a break. I've been without my pole for over 2 months and I LOVE my pole. But I had lots of injuries from it. I have gained more weight I have worked on other things and I can't wait to get back on it! I have so many goals and ideas! I know I will be a little less strong? But it will help me focus on some important things! I guess you can use that as an analogy!
Stepping away gives us time to breathe and think and remember what we really want out of our wamming sessions!
It's never a bad idea to take a step back for a bit!
Which? I can't WAAAAAAIT to session again! It's been too long! I misss ya!
Whenever you are back at it? Lemme know! I love yours! So much batter! Ahhhhh it's beautiful

i was wondering the same thing. first observation, i think anyone can grow tired of something and they need to "change things up" every so often.

i've always been into clothing destruction, wet and messy stuff. but for me, my answer and question to this is... have I raised the bar so high with what excites me, that what excited me, no longer is enough or does it for me anymore?

also, have i created a fantasy so great in my head that there is no way real life could ever match it? and even if something happened close in real life to the scenario in my mind, would it really be as good? would it have to happen more than once so that I could do everything I wanted to?

sometimes yes, i see yet another update... and there are beautiful girls in wet jeans... again... and I LOVE wet jeans... but maybe i also know that after 20 YEARS of visiting umd.net, maybe I have somehow convinced myself that I know the scenarios for the most part are scripted or unrealistic so that also adds to the, "limp Ramen noodle" moment, to borrow an expression from an earlier reply.

holy crap... you have given me SO MUCH to think about!

Hasn't happened to me yet. Been at it for about 23 years.