Potatoman-J said: More and more I keep hearing about and seeing just how badly she fucked people over. I can't guarantee anything, but maybe see if Messmaster can provide you with any pointers in taking her to small claims court depending on the situation and what kind of contracts you have.
That is if you have her full legal entity to track her down. "Ariel" was an alias and not her real name. A payment provider she used does show her full legal name in the transaction details though.
The sad thing is how the owners and mods and some other long time fans reacted. In general: leave Ariel alone, she is a legend, don't ask questions
I'll admit that was initially my attitude - but at that point I didn't know she'd scammed anyone for customs, I thought people were just angry she'd closed her stores without any warning, so they'd missed out on being able to make final purchases.
MikeyABQ said: When so many people say they were scammed this is unacceptable. UMD owners, mods and some users like Jayce, MUST know here legal name and are basically protecting a scammer cause she was well known here.
Very important note: The moderators do NOT have any access to that kind of information, for any UMD users. And we don't have any access to deleted accounts. The "ariel" account currently shows "This user doesn't exist." And that's the same regardless of whether I've got Admin mode turned on or not. Only MM has access to the ID data, and I would imagine the US has fairly strict laws governing when, and to whom, such information can be revealed. Here in the UK, GDRP would apply, which is *very* strict with enormous penalties for breaches, that doesn't apply in the US but I'm sure they'll have something along the same lines, at the very least I'd expect a lawyer would need to be involved.
MikeyABQ said: No troubles, legal, work related or any other are valid reasons for scamming people. A serious illness or death would be, but in that case customers should be informed, and as she logs in here from time to time, this is not the case.
So I'm very disappointed that UMD owners and mods are protecting a scammer, instead of taking care of their 6+ scammed site customers, while they should be reporting the scam to the police on behalf of customers.
No-one is protecting a scammer. If you have any issues with outstanding customs, and have documentation (emails, contract, that kind of thing) then contact MM and if he can assist within the law I'm sure he will. But be aware the UMD isn't a party to a custom deal, that's between the buyer and producer, and ultimately the only way to pursue it will be to take legal action against the producer. And in most cases, people aren't going to raise court action and sign affidavits over a custom fetish scene, because doing so creates public records.
It is deeply shitty that Ariel appears to have scammed multiple customers, how to completely trash her own legacy. I guess the only way to completely avoid that risk is never commission a custom, just buy ready made scenes, where the deal is between you and UMD (or Vidown or whoever) and you'll definitely get what you paid for. Regarding Wambabes, it's a sad end for what was a hugely respected WAM business.
Thank you for the last thing you said.....
she may have been a legend. She didnt leave like one. Just THAT in itself? I know from talking to many, many people? Has taken a lot of joy out of their collections, you know? It really is a sad thing. Makes me wonder too....was she NOT into it this whole time? hell, i was her bff! who knows......but thank you for saying that about all of us. we are all kinda like "shit" you know? eh. but im not gonna gossip about the whats and whys. just that it sucks.
happy monday, yall!!! really though.
sorry guys. I had it happen too. It has been something that has kept me awake at night, woke me up with nightmares and truly fucked with me.