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"Is there anywhere I can get phoebe's vids?"
Love you, too
The copyright owners asked us to delete her Vidown store about a year ago. I am fairly certain that she passed away then.
https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/fl/jacksonville/michelle-rodriguez-amos-9693045
As far as I know, there is currently no legal way to purchase the videos.
https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/fl/jacksonville/michelle-rodriguez-amos-9693045
As far as I know, there is currently no legal way to purchase the videos.
I'm really sorry to hear that. Phoebe was a pivotal member of this community, arguably the first big "amateur" model at a time when pretty much all the content was big producers like MessyFun, Splosh, and SSS. (MessyGirl Leah also started around this same time too.)
Of course, I was bummed to find out years later (via the late Lenny Sorge) that Phoebe wasn't really a "WAMmer," and actually it was her BF-at-the-time doing everything. But still.... At the time, when the illusion was real, I LOVED her stuff. I suspect many others did too. The fact that we all still remember the famous "Phoebe pie sandwich".... which is now something like 23 years old (!!).... oughta tell you how influential she was.
Rob Blaine... Lenny Sorge.... Bill Shipton.... and now Phoebe.... We've lost a lot of the greats of the "early era" of WAM over the years. (Someone check on WAMTEC Mark!!
)
Of course, I was bummed to find out years later (via the late Lenny Sorge) that Phoebe wasn't really a "WAMmer," and actually it was her BF-at-the-time doing everything. But still.... At the time, when the illusion was real, I LOVED her stuff. I suspect many others did too. The fact that we all still remember the famous "Phoebe pie sandwich".... which is now something like 23 years old (!!).... oughta tell you how influential she was.
Rob Blaine... Lenny Sorge.... Bill Shipton.... and now Phoebe.... We've lost a lot of the greats of the "early era" of WAM over the years. (Someone check on WAMTEC Mark!!
)
soundguy said: The copyright owners asked us to delete her Vidown store about a year ago. I am fairly certain that she passed away then.
https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/fl/jacksonville/michelle-rodriguez-amos-9693045
As far as I know, there is currently no legal way to purchase the videos.
https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/fl/jacksonville/michelle-rodriguez-amos-9693045
As far as I know, there is currently no legal way to purchase the videos.
Oh my goodness, I had no idea! I haven't clicked the link yet, but she could only have been about 50 at absolute most and probably not even that. That is a shock. Was there a RIP thread at the time on here? I don't remember one.
Pretty crazy.......had no clue until just now. Guessing she had been out of the WAM spotlight way before last year. Her videos were among the very first I purchased. Sad to learn of this news 
It'll be hard to watch her videos going forward. How very sad.
I used to talk to her quite a bit (and Ruben) prior to launching WLP. Then we just lost touch. Although I always got the feeling she preferred it that way for most of the WAM community.
Damn.
Damn.
I remember Phoebe from the early days of the UMD, she created some amazing work back then.
Really sorry to hear of her loss.
Really sorry to hear of her loss.
Saturation Hall - Forth! The Gungemaidens!
This is just so sad, 46 is no age. It may all have been a long time ago but Phoebe was one of the legendary figures from the early online days and is still fondly remembered. RIP.
I'd heard all the stuff about the pros/cons of her and WAM, etc. but like many....i am STUNNED to hear she passed away!!!! I do think that somehow passed the UMD by?
I love brunettes and she just ticked all the boxes. (Also i was forever convinced she was Canadian - something about her voice, her personality, etc. -- in my mind it made sense she was like a "lost" YCDTOTV cast member)
the stuff of her getting her lady friends pied and slimed = some of the earliest UMD-related WAM memories for me. I probably have 75-80% of the stuff she released, all on VHS in a box in my closet.
That's the thing about anyone here who does appreciate this as a pure fetish/sexual deal, it can't help but color the material forever once that person passes.
Damn.
Incredibly sad, but I would rather know than not.
JY
I love brunettes and she just ticked all the boxes. (Also i was forever convinced she was Canadian - something about her voice, her personality, etc. -- in my mind it made sense she was like a "lost" YCDTOTV cast member)
the stuff of her getting her lady friends pied and slimed = some of the earliest UMD-related WAM memories for me. I probably have 75-80% of the stuff she released, all on VHS in a box in my closet.
That's the thing about anyone here who does appreciate this as a pure fetish/sexual deal, it can't help but color the material forever once that person passes.
Damn.
Incredibly sad, but I would rather know than not.
JY
Oh my goodness, that's nigh on un-processable news. I remember Phoebe's site being one of the first I found when we had home internet access - before that I'd managed to find the UMD, during what must have been the first few months of it being online, using the school's fledgling internet access... but I digress.
But I remember loading up the stills from her videos on the site again and again, but of course not actually being able to buy them because I lacked a debit or credit card of my own at that point. But that look - we all know the one, between the two pies - will never leave my mind. (I bought most of her videos online a few years later, of course)
Genuinely I'm just... it's something you never expect to read, not about someone so young, and so vital. Here's to her.
But I remember loading up the stills from her videos on the site again and again, but of course not actually being able to buy them because I lacked a debit or credit card of my own at that point. But that look - we all know the one, between the two pies - will never leave my mind. (I bought most of her videos online a few years later, of course)
Genuinely I'm just... it's something you never expect to read, not about someone so young, and so vital. Here's to her.
Very sad news indeed.
Can't help but note it's kind of a sick burn on Phoebe's second husband (married to her at the time of her death) that the obituary linked above names her ex-husband Ruben as her "soulmate."
...or I guess it's more likely it's ambiguously worded and Misha Kavats is the husband of Phoebe's sister Tracy?
Can't help but note it's kind of a sick burn on Phoebe's second husband (married to her at the time of her death) that the obituary linked above names her ex-husband Ruben as her "soulmate."
...or I guess it's more likely it's ambiguously worded and Misha Kavats is the husband of Phoebe's sister Tracy?
Wow. Just wow.
Like others, I too have 1-2 of her vids in the box in VHS format. This was literally the start of the web, WWW, dial up modems, etc. Mrs. Bee and I were living in FL and I was teaching at Univ of Tampa, before we moved back home to Chitown. I swear I got one of her vids and she had sent a red lipstick lip imprint on a thank you card. Le sigh. She'll be one of the Wam legends. But 46, fuck.
PS, For the record, 2020 can kiss my ass.
Like others, I too have 1-2 of her vids in the box in VHS format. This was literally the start of the web, WWW, dial up modems, etc. Mrs. Bee and I were living in FL and I was teaching at Univ of Tampa, before we moved back home to Chitown. I swear I got one of her vids and she had sent a red lipstick lip imprint on a thank you card. Le sigh. She'll be one of the Wam legends. But 46, fuck.
PS, For the record, 2020 can kiss my ass.
I've been coming here to the UMD for over 20 years and she was definitely one of the earliest wam crushes of mine. This is awful news and a huge loss.SStuff said: I'm really sorry to hear that. Phoebe was a pivotal member of this community, arguably the first big "amateur" model at a time when pretty much all the content was big producers like MessyFun, Splosh, and SSS. (MessyGirl Leah also started around this same time too.)
Of course, I was bummed to find out years later (via the late Lenny Sorge) that Phoebe wasn't really a "WAMmer," and actually it was her BF-at-the-time doing everything. But still.... At the time, when the illusion was real, I LOVED her stuff. I suspect many others did too. The fact that we all still remember the famous "Phoebe pie sandwich".... which is now something like 23 years old (!!).... oughta tell you how influential she was.
Rob Blaine... Lenny Sorge.... Bill Shipton.... and now Phoebe.... We've lost a lot of the greats of the "early era" of WAM over the years. (Someone check on WAMTEC Mark!! )
Of course, I was bummed to find out years later (via the late Lenny Sorge) that Phoebe wasn't really a "WAMmer," and actually it was her BF-at-the-time doing everything. But still.... At the time, when the illusion was real, I LOVED her stuff. I suspect many others did too. The fact that we all still remember the famous "Phoebe pie sandwich".... which is now something like 23 years old (!!).... oughta tell you how influential she was.
Rob Blaine... Lenny Sorge.... Bill Shipton.... and now Phoebe.... We've lost a lot of the greats of the "early era" of WAM over the years. (Someone check on WAMTEC Mark!!
) What? She wasn't a WAMmer? You ruined it Rich!
So sad that she was only 46... She was also one of the first, if not the first WAM material I saw on the internet when I got my first dial-up connection.
Oh jeez this news absolutely shocked me. I'm very sorry to hear this tragic news. I loved a lot of her videos. Seemed like at the time she was into WAM but I guess that was not the case.
Wow, that's a shock to read. I can still remember when I first discovered her work. I was aking for any new video from her to come out. And now to realize she died much to early at 46, that's just tragic.
And I fully agree with Bigshipper ...
And I fully agree with Bigshipper ...
Bigshipper said: ...
PS, For the record, 2020 can kiss my ass.
PS, For the record, 2020 can kiss my ass.
It's not WAM if the hair stays clean
I remember when her website was called the Canadian WAM Company. Good memories.
This really is a huge shock. Like many here, Phoebe was one of my first memories of UMD. "Produced" or not, she had a certain look of being casual that the extant producers of her era did not, and that's the look I totally loved in my WAM.
It's been over a year since her passing. I hope she was able to live a happy life. I know her semi-autobiography showed that she had a tough one, even leaving out her whole WAM era.
It's been over a year since her passing. I hope she was able to live a happy life. I know her semi-autobiography showed that she had a tough one, even leaving out her whole WAM era.
In addition to the debt of gratitude WAM fans owe Phoebe for her own stellar pioneering work in the field, we should also be grateful to her for the strong influence she had on an extremely popular amateur female wammer of more recent times. I'm talking about the incredible kittenish. She was once talking about her earliest encounters with online WAM, and she said:
"I remember coming across it [Phoebe's site] and thinking she was SO pretty and was she really getting a pie smashed in her face? Lots of pies?? It was incredible to see and one of the first moments I realized that liking a pie in the face was a 'thing.' So I consider it a defining moment in my pie-sexuality."
So let's celebrate the memory of Phoebe primarily for her own incredible videos but also for being a shining beacon that helped bring kittenish into the fold. kittenish never sold any videos like Phoebe did, but out of the generosity of her pie-covered heart she gave us many, many free pics of a totally gorgeous and seductively intelligent woman exploring her pie-sexuality. I doubt you'll see this post, kittenish, but if you do, please know that many of us love you and greatly miss your thoughtful presence here as well as, of course, all those incredible photos of your journey to messy nirvana.
"I remember coming across it [Phoebe's site] and thinking she was SO pretty and was she really getting a pie smashed in her face? Lots of pies?? It was incredible to see and one of the first moments I realized that liking a pie in the face was a 'thing.' So I consider it a defining moment in my pie-sexuality."
So let's celebrate the memory of Phoebe primarily for her own incredible videos but also for being a shining beacon that helped bring kittenish into the fold. kittenish never sold any videos like Phoebe did, but out of the generosity of her pie-covered heart she gave us many, many free pics of a totally gorgeous and seductively intelligent woman exploring her pie-sexuality. I doubt you'll see this post, kittenish, but if you do, please know that many of us love you and greatly miss your thoughtful presence here as well as, of course, all those incredible photos of your journey to messy nirvana.
PieromaniacAttack-ack-ack said: In addition to the debt of gratitude WAM fans owe Phoebe for her own stellar pioneering work in the field, we should also be grateful to her for the strong influence she had on an extremely popular amateur female wammer of more recent times. I'm talking about the incredible kittenish. She was once talking about her earliest encounters with online WAM, and she said:
"I remember coming across it [Phoebe's site] and thinking she was SO pretty and was she really getting a pie smashed in her face? Lots of pies?? It was incredible to see and one of the first moments I realized that liking a pie in the face was a 'thing.' So I consider it a defining moment in my pie-sexuality."
So let's celebrate the memory of Phoebe primarily for her own incredible videos but also for being a shining beacon that helped bring kittenish into the fold. kittenish never sold any videos like Phoebe did, but out of the generosity of her pie-covered heart she gave us many, many free pics of a totally gorgeous and seductively intelligent woman exploring her pie-sexuality. I doubt you'll see this post, kittenish, but if you do, please know that many of us love you and greatly miss your thoughtful presence here as well as, of course, all those incredible photos of your journey to messy nirvana.
"I remember coming across it [Phoebe's site] and thinking she was SO pretty and was she really getting a pie smashed in her face? Lots of pies?? It was incredible to see and one of the first moments I realized that liking a pie in the face was a 'thing.' So I consider it a defining moment in my pie-sexuality."
So let's celebrate the memory of Phoebe primarily for her own incredible videos but also for being a shining beacon that helped bring kittenish into the fold. kittenish never sold any videos like Phoebe did, but out of the generosity of her pie-covered heart she gave us many, many free pics of a totally gorgeous and seductively intelligent woman exploring her pie-sexuality. I doubt you'll see this post, kittenish, but if you do, please know that many of us love you and greatly miss your thoughtful presence here as well as, of course, all those incredible photos of your journey to messy nirvana.
Here's her last ever post on the UMD. It's a very interesting read. No wonder she hasn't posted since.
https://umd.net/forums/how-can-we-make-the-umd-safer-for-women
SStuff said:
Here's her last ever post on the UMD. It's a very interesting read. No wonder she hasn't posted since.
https://umd.net/forums/how-can-we-make-the-umd-safer-for-women
PieromaniacAttack-ack-ack said: In addition to the debt of gratitude WAM fans owe Phoebe for her own stellar pioneering work in the field, we should also be grateful to her for the strong influence she had on an extremely popular amateur female wammer of more recent times. I'm talking about the incredible kittenish. She was once talking about her earliest encounters with online WAM, and she said:
"I remember coming across it [Phoebe's site] and thinking she was SO pretty and was she really getting a pie smashed in her face? Lots of pies?? It was incredible to see and one of the first moments I realized that liking a pie in the face was a 'thing.' So I consider it a defining moment in my pie-sexuality."
So let's celebrate the memory of Phoebe primarily for her own incredible videos but also for being a shining beacon that helped bring kittenish into the fold. kittenish never sold any videos like Phoebe did, but out of the generosity of her pie-covered heart she gave us many, many free pics of a totally gorgeous and seductively intelligent woman exploring her pie-sexuality. I doubt you'll see this post, kittenish, but if you do, please know that many of us love you and greatly miss your thoughtful presence here as well as, of course, all those incredible photos of your journey to messy nirvana.
"I remember coming across it [Phoebe's site] and thinking she was SO pretty and was she really getting a pie smashed in her face? Lots of pies?? It was incredible to see and one of the first moments I realized that liking a pie in the face was a 'thing.' So I consider it a defining moment in my pie-sexuality."
So let's celebrate the memory of Phoebe primarily for her own incredible videos but also for being a shining beacon that helped bring kittenish into the fold. kittenish never sold any videos like Phoebe did, but out of the generosity of her pie-covered heart she gave us many, many free pics of a totally gorgeous and seductively intelligent woman exploring her pie-sexuality. I doubt you'll see this post, kittenish, but if you do, please know that many of us love you and greatly miss your thoughtful presence here as well as, of course, all those incredible photos of your journey to messy nirvana.
Here's her last ever post on the UMD. It's a very interesting read. No wonder she hasn't posted since.
https://umd.net/forums/how-can-we-make-the-umd-safer-for-women
Sorry. I don't see her posting anywhere on that thread.
