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"Covid-19 Vaccine"
You say that COVID-19 was named because of the year it was discovered, yet if you see the picture below, you will see that it was a notifiable disease back in 2010.
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Please take note of the website.
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Dawamman said: You say that COVID-19 was named because of the year it was discovered, yet if you see the picture below, you will see that it was a notifiable disease back in 2010.
Please take note of the website.
Please take note of the website.
You are reading this incorrectly. The rules that designated what the notifiable causes of death due to disease were formulated in 2009. It was determined that an inquest was not necessary for Covid-19 and that was added to the list. Given the volume of cases it would have been impossible for coroners to hold an inquest for every instance of suspected Covid-19 caused mortality.
This is an example of taking one single instance of supposed circumstantial evidence out of context to justify your belief that something is wrong.
Dirty Job but I got to do it 20+ years. Thanks.
As you can see from below, there is a lot of miss information, COVID-19 was never named because of the year it was so called discovered.
I appreciate all the feedback, but I am trying to understand what's what, there is a lot of conflicting information from the Internet, media, forums, people and I'm not sure what to do.
I have been a member on this site for almost 2 years, I'm no troll, FUD or anything else, I'm a human being that's just looking for answers and I'm sorry if anything I'm posting is offending you
dalamar666 said:
Why did the UK and countries around the world order 100's of thousands coronavirus test kits in 2016,2017 and 2018?
Yeah I think maybe you should do just a little research about something before posting. COVID refers to the Coronavirus Disease. Every year there are new Coronavirus Diseases discovered this one discovered in 2019 was named after the year, hence COVID-19. Hell there are episodes of Law and Order that reference Coronavirus almost a decade ago. The common cold was listed in the 60s as Human Coronavirus OC43. The SARS outbreak from back in 2002 was originally called SARS-CoV AKA SARS Coronavirus.
Why did the UK and countries around the world order 100's of thousands coronavirus test kits in 2016,2017 and 2018?
Yeah I think maybe you should do just a little research about something before posting. COVID refers to the Coronavirus Disease. Every year there are new Coronavirus Diseases discovered this one discovered in 2019 was named after the year, hence COVID-19. Hell there are episodes of Law and Order that reference Coronavirus almost a decade ago. The common cold was listed in the 60s as Human Coronavirus OC43. The SARS outbreak from back in 2002 was originally called SARS-CoV AKA SARS Coronavirus.
I appreciate all the feedback, but I am trying to understand what's what, there is a lot of conflicting information from the Internet, media, forums, people and I'm not sure what to do.
I have been a member on this site for almost 2 years, I'm no troll, FUD or anything else, I'm a human being that's just looking for answers and I'm sorry if anything I'm posting is offending you
Please pour it all over me!!!!
Dawamman said: As you can see from below, there is a lot of miss information, COVID-19 was never named because of the year it was so called discovered.
I appreciate all the feedback, but I am trying to understand what's what, there is a lot of conflicting information from the Internet, media, forums, people and I'm not sure what to do.
I have been a member on this site for almost 2 years, I'm no troll, FUD or anything else, I'm a human being that's just looking for answers and I'm sorry if anything I'm posting is offending you
dalamar666 said:
Why did the UK and countries around the world order 100's of thousands coronavirus test kits in 2016,2017 and 2018?
Yeah I think maybe you should do just a little research about something before posting. COVID refers to the Coronavirus Disease. Every year there are new Coronavirus Diseases discovered this one discovered in 2019 was named after the year, hence COVID-19. Hell there are episodes of Law and Order that reference Coronavirus almost a decade ago. The common cold was listed in the 60s as Human Coronavirus OC43. The SARS outbreak from back in 2002 was originally called SARS-CoV AKA SARS Coronavirus.
Why did the UK and countries around the world order 100's of thousands coronavirus test kits in 2016,2017 and 2018?
Yeah I think maybe you should do just a little research about something before posting. COVID refers to the Coronavirus Disease. Every year there are new Coronavirus Diseases discovered this one discovered in 2019 was named after the year, hence COVID-19. Hell there are episodes of Law and Order that reference Coronavirus almost a decade ago. The common cold was listed in the 60s as Human Coronavirus OC43. The SARS outbreak from back in 2002 was originally called SARS-CoV AKA SARS Coronavirus.
I appreciate all the feedback, but I am trying to understand what's what, there is a lot of conflicting information from the Internet, media, forums, people and I'm not sure what to do.
I have been a member on this site for almost 2 years, I'm no troll, FUD or anything else, I'm a human being that's just looking for answers and I'm sorry if anything I'm posting is offending you
You're not offending me. You're embarrassing yourself. Learn to separate real information from the made up stuff. You keep offering what you purport to be information yet never make any attempt at defending or supporting it. You just keep babbling nonsense. I think this would lead most people to conclude that you are not being very genuine.
Let me attempt to illustrate with a folk tale -
A hunter took a shot at a bear one day and the bear ran toward him, seized his rifle, and threw it away. "Hey there! Be careful with that before you hurt someone." said the bear. The bear then slapped the hunter and went on his way.
A day later the bear came across the same hunter and this time he broke the hunter's rifle and gave him a severe beating.
A couple days after that the hunter was surprised by the bear and his bear friends. They savagely mauled the hunter before sexually assaulting him anally. Getting bear banged was not pretty.
Finally the weekend arrived and the bear saw the hunter once again. This time the bear walked up to the hunter and asked "You don't really come here to hunt, do you?"
Dirty Job but I got to do it 20+ years. Thanks.
To all concerned we in Australia are more confused then ever the Government have released one vax for over 50's and another for under 50's. This is due to very rare blood clots in at least 6 patients of which one person died from the result of the very rare blood clots caused by a particular vax. (All had under lying health issues as well). The government its self is confused as to which vax should be given to which age group and type of vax. Even so the number of people getting vax is growing steadily by the day this they hope will lead to heard immunity either way by at least 2021. The more worrying variant is the new Indian strain with a R factor of about 6+ verses the original strain of 2.4 to 2.8 per 10 people along with the UK and Brazil variants of 4.5 per 10 people. The true figures on these wont be known for some time yet as India is in full crisis mode as I write this and the Brazilian government is not releasing any real data of either infections or deaths. These 2 countries are of the most concern as if found in Europe and the USA like Australia will lead to lockdowns as we are heading for another lockdown as I write this.
I myself have spoken to my GP and I am now on a waiting list for at least one vax not sure of type thou? This is due to no walk in clinics are located where I live and need to travel to town to get one over an hours drive.
I myself have spoken to my GP and I am now on a waiting list for at least one vax not sure of type thou? This is due to no walk in clinics are located where I live and need to travel to town to get one over an hours drive.
Ironic that we have vaccines in abundance here and can't get anyone to take the damn things.
Dirty Job but I got to do it 20+ years. Thanks.
Dawamman said: You say that COVID-19 was named because of the year it was discovered, yet if you see the picture below, you will see that it was a notifiable disease back in 2010.
Please take note of the website.
Please take note of the website.
You're reading it wrong. The actual legislation is called "Health Protection (Notifications) Regulations 2010". 2010 is part of the name of the law, and refers to the year in which the actual act of parliament came into force (this is so if they passed another one this year it'd be the "Health Protection (Notifications) Regulations 2021", so MPs could tell them apart when discussing them). As of now, the "Health Protection (Notifications) Regulations 2010" is the law that is in force, and under that law, the Department for Health has the power to decide on a daily basis which diseases are, or are not, notifiable - and even switch them in and out of that status if they need to.
It does not mean that anyone knew about Covid-19 in 2010, just that now, in 2021, the 2010 act which is in force has been used to make that disease one of the notifiable ones.
Different example: Go out and try and shoot someone with a handgun tomorrow, and amongst other things you could be charged with illegal posession of a firearm under "The Firearms (Amendment) Act 1997" which banned handguns in the UK in the wake of the Dunblane school shooting.
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DuncanEdwards said: Ironic that we have vaccines in abundance here and can't get anyone to take the damn things.
Wait.. Where the hell ARE you? From your photo icon, you seem to live on a very muddy planet.
Zoidbergs Evil Twin said:
Wait.. Where the hell ARE you? From your photo icon, you seem to live on a very muddy planet.
DuncanEdwards said: Ironic that we have vaccines in abundance here and can't get anyone to take the damn things.
Wait.. Where the hell ARE you? From your photo icon, you seem to live on a very muddy planet.
Indeed, a very muddy planet where the women are desperately lacking in clothes. Someone should drop-ship them a consignment of women's boilersuits, wellies, and waterproof suits, ASAP.
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DungeonMasterOne said:
Indeed, a very muddy planet where the women are desperately lacking in clothes. Someone should drop-ship them a consignment of women's boilersuits, wellies, and waterproof suits, ASAP.
Zoidbergs Evil Twin said:
Wait.. Where the hell ARE you? From your photo icon, you seem to live on a very muddy planet.
DuncanEdwards said: Ironic that we have vaccines in abundance here and can't get anyone to take the damn things.
Wait.. Where the hell ARE you? From your photo icon, you seem to live on a very muddy planet.
Indeed, a very muddy planet where the women are desperately lacking in clothes. Someone should drop-ship them a consignment of women's boilersuits, wellies, and waterproof suits, ASAP.
Tennessee. Definitely a world of it's own. Far to warm to deal with clothing around here in the summer. As long as you won't blind anyone it's fine to run around the farm with nothing on.
Dirty Job but I got to do it 20+ years. Thanks.
DuncanEdwards said: Tennessee. Definitely a world of it's own. Far to warm to deal with clothing around here in the summer. As long as you won't blind anyone it's fine to run around the farm with nothing on.
Ye olde foolin' around with the farmer's daughter meme.
Classic.Dawamman said: As you can see from below, there is a lot of miss information, COVID-19 was never named because of the year it was so called discovered.
I appreciate all the feedback, but I am trying to understand what's what, there is a lot of conflicting information from the Internet, media, forums, people and I'm not sure what to do.
I have been a member on this site for almost 2 years, I'm no troll, FUD or anything else, I'm a human being that's just looking for answers and I'm sorry if anything I'm posting is offending you
dalamar666 said:
Why did the UK and countries around the world order 100's of thousands coronavirus test kits in 2016,2017 and 2018?
Yeah I think maybe you should do just a little research about something before posting. COVID refers to the Coronavirus Disease. Every year there are new Coronavirus Diseases discovered this one discovered in 2019 was named after the year, hence COVID-19. Hell there are episodes of Law and Order that reference Coronavirus almost a decade ago. The common cold was listed in the 60s as Human Coronavirus OC43. The SARS outbreak from back in 2002 was originally called SARS-CoV AKA SARS Coronavirus.
Why did the UK and countries around the world order 100's of thousands coronavirus test kits in 2016,2017 and 2018?
Yeah I think maybe you should do just a little research about something before posting. COVID refers to the Coronavirus Disease. Every year there are new Coronavirus Diseases discovered this one discovered in 2019 was named after the year, hence COVID-19. Hell there are episodes of Law and Order that reference Coronavirus almost a decade ago. The common cold was listed in the 60s as Human Coronavirus OC43. The SARS outbreak from back in 2002 was originally called SARS-CoV AKA SARS Coronavirus.
I appreciate all the feedback, but I am trying to understand what's what, there is a lot of conflicting information from the Internet, media, forums, people and I'm not sure what to do.
I have been a member on this site for almost 2 years, I'm no troll, FUD or anything else, I'm a human being that's just looking for answers and I'm sorry if anything I'm posting is offending you
Misinformation huh. Here is a government site with a pretty cartoon for you about the name COVID-19. Maybe pictures will help.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/about-covid-19/basics-covid-19.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fcdcresponse%2Fabout-COVID-19.html
dawamman, dalamar, dungeonmaster, DuncanEdwards - it would help if you all didn't have names that begin with the letter 'D'. Having mental trouble telling your comments apart. 
DuncanEdwards said: Ironic that we have vaccines in abundance here and can't get anyone to take the damn things.
That may be true where you live. But our country is polarized on this issue. Vaccine is very popular stuff where I live. Shots were booked for weeks ahead.
I didn't want to wait for weeks. So I investigated appointments in areas where people were likely to hold world views completely opposed to mine.
I was prepared to tolerate a drive of up to eight hours round trip (equal to a standard workday).
Victory...within 10 minutes of mouse clicking, and for the very next day. And a bargain. It was only 90 miles away.
Nessie
Loch_Ness said:
That may be true where you live. But our country is polarized on this issue. Vaccine is very popular stuff where I live. Shots were booked for weeks ahead.
That may be true where you live. But our country is polarized on this issue. Vaccine is very popular stuff where I live. Shots were booked for weeks ahead.
I don't understand your second sentence. It is inconsistent with the others.
If your country has extreme high demand for vaccines,
doesn't that mean your country is NOT polarized on this issue:
that the vast majority WANT the vaccine?
Zoidbergs Evil Twin said:
I don't understand your second sentence. It is inconsistent with the others.
If your country has extreme high demand for vaccines,
doesn't that mean your country is NOT polarized on this issue:
that the vast majority WANT the vaccine?
Loch_Ness said:
That may be true where you live. But our country is polarized on this issue. Vaccine is very popular stuff where I live. Shots were booked for weeks ahead.
That may be true where you live. But our country is polarized on this issue. Vaccine is very popular stuff where I live. Shots were booked for weeks ahead.
I don't understand your second sentence. It is inconsistent with the others.
If your country has extreme high demand for vaccines,
doesn't that mean your country is NOT polarized on this issue:
that the vast majority WANT the vaccine?
I do believe what she is politely saying is that many of those in certain areas are given to philosophies that don't want the government telling them what to do and everything like that is viewed with great suspicion. I know this because that's where I live and I'm generally one of them. I just happen to be kind of science geeky and sometimes a good thing is just that. It's a little different where Nessie comes from.
Dirty Job but I got to do it 20+ years. Thanks.
Zoidbergs Evil Twin said:
If your country has extreme high demand for vaccines,
doesn't that mean your country is NOT polarized on this issue:
that the vast majority WANT the vaccine?
If your country has extreme high demand for vaccines,
doesn't that mean your country is NOT polarized on this issue:
that the vast majority WANT the vaccine?
Oh, it's polarized all righty. It's so bad that the two sides can hardly talk to each other.
But I didn't mean that my whole country had a high demand for vaccine. Only certain areas of my country had a high demand for vaccine. In my case, everything within 50 miles of my house was booked.
Other areas didn't have a high demand. I can drive, so I did.
Nessie
MessyCharlotte said: Not strictly vaccine related but case growth in the UK is.... worrying....
But what is vaccine related is the evidence, at least so far, that hospitalisation is not increasing and those who are hospitalised are generally not those fully vaccinated, showing that vaccination is working. This should be further evidence to those who have chosen not to be vaccinated that they should get their jabs.
AlanD said:
But what is vaccine related is the evidence, at least so far, that hospitalisation is not increasing and those who are hospitalised are generally not those fully vaccinated, showing that vaccination is working. This should be further evidence to those who have chosen not to be vaccinated that they should get their jabs.
MessyCharlotte said: Not strictly vaccine related but case growth in the UK is.... worrying....
But what is vaccine related is the evidence, at least so far, that hospitalisation is not increasing and those who are hospitalised are generally not those fully vaccinated, showing that vaccination is working. This should be further evidence to those who have chosen not to be vaccinated that they should get their jabs.
Evidence has never meant a damn thing to some people. They believe whatever nonsense they want, and call evidence that doesn't support their viewpoint "fake news".
Zoidbergs Evil Twin said: I've had - in order I am remembering these things -
1. Ten toenails removed, in podiatrists' offices (2002 to 2005)
2. Four arthroscopic surgeries on left elbow (1985, 1992, 2004)
including the famous Ilizarov Method (1994) where I wore a metal frame with 5 pins
in my arm to force the elbow joint apart, for 8 weeks,
while I taught math at Rutgers.
3. Arthroscopic cleaning of right elbow (2009)
4. Total left wrist replaced (2007)
5. Total right wrist replaced (2019)
6. Left thumb surgery (2008)
7. Pins in 3 toes on left foot (2005) for a month to straighten hammertoes
8. pins in 1 toe on right foot (2005) for a month to straighten hammertoes
9. mole removed right chin (1981)
10. vasectomy (1995)
11. 5 colonoscopies (2001, 2003, 2008, 2013, 2018)
12. 1 endoscopy (2001)
13. Two total knee replacements done at same time. Surgeon also honored
my request to remove 8 of my toenails while I was under anesthesia.
But they grew back, so, had to go to podiatrist to remove more permanently.
14. Total left hip replacement (June 2017)
15. Total right hip replacement (September 2017)
16. Removal of right metal hip due to Staphylococcus epidermidis
and Staphylococcus warneri infection of the metal hip,
replaced with concrete spacer for 8 weeks while receiving antibiotics
via piccline in arm (July 2019)
17. Removal of space & new right metal hip installed (October 2019)
18. Total dislocation of right hip (November 2019)
while sitting at home in front of my computer, just got careless with it
19. Worst pain in my life: week after they popped my hip in
had to return to ER, fearing it would dislocate again, but luckily did not
20. MRIS of hips + neck
21. Six teeth extracted, including 4 backmost molars
22. Three root canals (2004, 2020, 2021)
23. Swollen arthritic knees repeatedly drained of fluid by doctors at Rutgers
(1993 to 1999) over a dozen times
24. 7 neck injections (2019), including 1 done yesterday, for severe neck pain
25. Anorexic (1978) when I was 14. Went to hospital for 12 days to regain weight.
25. Ear lavages, including 1 done last week
26. Pin put into right thumb (2014)
27. Right thumb pin removed by other doctor (2015)
28. Wire left in right thumb that should have been removed when pin was, by third doctor (2019)
29. Had the mumps as a kid (must have been 3 or 4 years old: 1960s)
30. Many teeth fillings
31. Weekly self injections of Enbrel (2001-2008), Humira (2008-2014),
and Actemra (2016 to now) for RA.
32. Experimental blood filtering where blood was removed from one arm
and put back into other arm after being filtered of certain cells. About 5 or 6 sessions.
(2000) Just lay in hospital bed for an hour.
33. Heart catheterization (2021) via right arm
34. Prostate biopsy (2008)
35. Horrible shingles from base of spine down back of right leg for a week (2004)
36. Left foot bunionectomy (2008)
1. Ten toenails removed, in podiatrists' offices (2002 to 2005)
2. Four arthroscopic surgeries on left elbow (1985, 1992, 2004)
including the famous Ilizarov Method (1994) where I wore a metal frame with 5 pins
in my arm to force the elbow joint apart, for 8 weeks,
while I taught math at Rutgers.
3. Arthroscopic cleaning of right elbow (2009)
4. Total left wrist replaced (2007)
5. Total right wrist replaced (2019)
6. Left thumb surgery (2008)
7. Pins in 3 toes on left foot (2005) for a month to straighten hammertoes
8. pins in 1 toe on right foot (2005) for a month to straighten hammertoes
9. mole removed right chin (1981)
10. vasectomy (1995)
11. 5 colonoscopies (2001, 2003, 2008, 2013, 2018)
12. 1 endoscopy (2001)
13. Two total knee replacements done at same time. Surgeon also honored
my request to remove 8 of my toenails while I was under anesthesia.
But they grew back, so, had to go to podiatrist to remove more permanently.
14. Total left hip replacement (June 2017)
15. Total right hip replacement (September 2017)
16. Removal of right metal hip due to Staphylococcus epidermidis
and Staphylococcus warneri infection of the metal hip,
replaced with concrete spacer for 8 weeks while receiving antibiotics
via piccline in arm (July 2019)
17. Removal of space & new right metal hip installed (October 2019)
18. Total dislocation of right hip (November 2019)
while sitting at home in front of my computer, just got careless with it
19. Worst pain in my life: week after they popped my hip in
had to return to ER, fearing it would dislocate again, but luckily did not
20. MRIS of hips + neck
21. Six teeth extracted, including 4 backmost molars
22. Three root canals (2004, 2020, 2021)
23. Swollen arthritic knees repeatedly drained of fluid by doctors at Rutgers
(1993 to 1999) over a dozen times
24. 7 neck injections (2019), including 1 done yesterday, for severe neck pain
25. Anorexic (1978) when I was 14. Went to hospital for 12 days to regain weight.
25. Ear lavages, including 1 done last week
26. Pin put into right thumb (2014)
27. Right thumb pin removed by other doctor (2015)
28. Wire left in right thumb that should have been removed when pin was, by third doctor (2019)
29. Had the mumps as a kid (must have been 3 or 4 years old: 1960s)
30. Many teeth fillings
31. Weekly self injections of Enbrel (2001-2008), Humira (2008-2014),
and Actemra (2016 to now) for RA.
32. Experimental blood filtering where blood was removed from one arm
and put back into other arm after being filtered of certain cells. About 5 or 6 sessions.
(2000) Just lay in hospital bed for an hour.
33. Heart catheterization (2021) via right arm
34. Prostate biopsy (2008)
35. Horrible shingles from base of spine down back of right leg for a week (2004)
36. Left foot bunionectomy (2008)
37. Crown (2021 June 9) made on tooth #12: hour-long-ass procedure
Very little physical pain, but I start suffering panic attack being helpless lying on back so long.
But dentist was super cool: she let me stand up a few times to stretch and keep
blood from pooling in head.
38. Right eardrum pierced twice by otolaryngologist to drain fluid (2021 June 9) blocking hearing.
I'm still fine. And so apparently is most of the state. I keep reading about Tennessee having such abysmal vax stats but the rate of infection, hospitalizations, etc continue to fall. We're not wearing masks and every music venue in Nashville is full again. I just bought tickets to Joan Jett. I'm thinking it's over. 
Dirty Job but I got to do it 20+ years. Thanks.
Zoidbergs Evil Twin said: dawamman, dalamar, dungeonmaster, DuncanEdwards - it would help if you all didn't have names that begin with the letter 'D'. Having mental trouble telling your comments apart.
And just to make it worse, when I went to Las Vegas for UMD 20 back in 2018, I stayed in a casino hotel on Freemont Street called "The D".
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