Wondering if there are any Christians on this site, or people of any other religion that sees lust as a sin? If so, how do you justify being here? Should be some pretty interesting responses...

I like turtles, but the dot dot dot thing is wrong... can it be switched to changed seriously offensive phrases there is no call for such as:

All christians are cunts.


Because I would hate to read that, and "I like turtles" would be funny to see instead.



I doubt you will get many admit to their religion really on here, but people justify all sorts of shit while maintaining religious belief. Apparently a lot of people believe that the bible says gay people are sinners, while the majority are wondering what the fuck version of the bible they are reading.

Christianity can't agree on any one interpretation of the bible anyway, it seems to be a buffet for choosing what you want to take note of and ignore the stoning to death of women that cheat on their husbands that society has taught us is aggravated homicide.


It's a blunt call, but I'll take the edge off by telling you I have plenty of christian friends, a few ex's and all that and what people believe is up to them - I won't judge as long as they don't judge me for my belief there are invisible fairy's living at the bottom of my garden.

Bottom line, Christians will justify that which they can't change about themselves in the same way I am going to justify drinking this coffee after 10pm - by using my human nature.

Oh, and ...

Heh, I just posted under the wrong user again damn it... and too late to delete and repost.



Direct hate mail at me.

Exactly what I thought. I just wanted to hear it from them LOL

I've been doing that for YEARS!!!

That's why I love Gmail's filters:

?If_sender? = liberatorWAM %forward% $email$ = *to* = mother_theresa_estate@peace.org

What's she done to deserve that? She a druggie too?

On topic... I'm not Christian. There's no religion I follow, but the Greek's and Roman's had some interesting Gods and Godesses. I wonder if anyone still bows to Zeus, or says a prayer to Hera.

She had a terrible habit.

Wore it all the time...


I actually believe a dung beetle rolls the sun up into the sky every morning,

I'm a bastard for arguing with anyone religious... I really can not understand how someone can believe in a god/religion based on geographic location. Example... if you are born in Texas U.S.A you are going to be Baptist. Born in India to Indian parents, Hindu.

My reasoning... I tend to ask "Well, if you were born in Iran would you believe with all your heart that Muhammad was the last prophet of God, or that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins?"

Can't all be right, all are equally unprovable and require blind faith. If you are believing something purely because that's what people believe in your geographical location and have been taught... well, chances you are believing in the right thing are pretty damn slim when you add all the religions together - assuming of course their is something there in the first place.

Hi.
I think all religions are stupid drugs for humans.
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Regards,
Melly

I'm very much a Chirstian and I am not ashamed to admit that. However to to justify my reason for being here is no more than a social conversation with others that I consider to be very nice and friendly people. Playing with food and having a food fight isn't some sort of sin. We are all human and some people mistake that being a Christian means being a perfect moral person. That's not the case, what is important is to love god and have trust and faith in him.

I however do not visit random fetish sites for a sexual thrill nor do I expose myself in a sexual matter on this website in the forms of pics. I myself do not care for such a thing. It just depends how you live your life and getting or hitting a willing person with a pie is not a sin... there is far worse!!! lol

You are hanging out in a place full of pornography, is that not sinful? I actually agree with you that throwing some pies is not sinful... I just don't understand all the innocence yet hang out in a place on the web full of the exact opposite.

Don't take that as my thinking you don't belong here... I wish there were more like you, I am not a huge fan of the full on porn and we could do with watering it down some.


As far as I am aware the whole point of being a Christian is to aim to be a perfect moral person, otherwise I would think a mass murderer is on equal footing with you as a person as long as he loves god and has trust and faith in him.

Absolutely Noise.... We aim to be a perfect moral person. But alas.... we fall short many many times.

I too am a Christian, and although I strive to be "good", I also have my vices. I like boobs, and messy ones are just the best.

Am I proud/happy with myself? Probably not. So I will leave it at that.

mudmonster79 said:
I aim to be a perfect moral person... just don't need a book and a belief in a god to have a moral compass. Also don't need either to make me feel bad about some things I shouldn't because they are natural and healthy. What is bad for people is suppressing stuff that isn't bad for them.

Most people have a pretty good moral compass and don't need religion for it.

Hi mudmonster79.
This is exactly what I think -))
Regards,
Melany

What?

You think all religions are a stupid drug for humans and you are a christian that strives to be good although you also have your vices. You like boobs, and messy ones are just the best.?


I also reserve the right to change my opinions on a dime.

I am not a Christian. I only have a Christian background.

But not all of Christianity would necessarily condemn this site. Not all Christians are the same. On one end of the spectrum are the fundamentalist types who believe that the Bible is the literal truth and hold to very conservative beliefs, and these are the people who try to get evolution kicked out of the classroom.

On the other end you have the more liberal variety who will actually admit that the Bible is fallible (it has typographical errors, inconsistencies and mistakes in it!) and consider the creation story to be not necessarily a literal truth, and not necessarily in conflict with science.

Jesus himself did not condemn the woman caught in adultery, and he was silent on the subject of homosexuality. Christians who support gay marriage are fast to point that out, and they are correct.

So I'm not sure that being a Christian means that one can't be here. A lot may depend on the type of faith and the personal honesty level. I mean, lying to your spouse about your interests probably would be a sin all by itself.

But if one is open and honest about it and not lying to anyone plus the spouse, if there is one, is comfortable with it...is that a sin?

Probably not. WAM doesn't actually hurt people.

I'm not a Christian but it isn't anything I chose. It's a bit like this:

You look out the window and there's a park across the street, and facing you is a bench.

Christians all tell me that they do in fact believe that somebody is sitting on that bench. They either tell me that they've seen him, or they say he's really there even though they never actually see him. They're always talking to this guy on the park bench but I don't see any guy on the bench.

And they all tell me that when they talk to this guy, they get answers! Some of them tell me they hear something for real, and others simply interpret a sequence of events that follows a prayer as an answer to that prayer.

They even tell me that they have a close, loving relationship with that guy on the bench!

But me?

No matter what they tell me about this guy on the bench, I still never see anybody sitting there. There's nothing to stop me from talking to him anyway, but really, it's like talking to a wall. And I never get anything back that I can call an answer nor does it feel like anyone's listening.

There is simply nobody sitting on that park bench. Not a real guy, not a ghost of a guy, not the spirit of the guy. I'm not refusing to see that guy. I can't point to any deep, hidden emotional reason inside me that would explain why I would avoid that guy.

Hey...there have been times when it would be wonderful to see that guy on the bench! When there's a death in the family, it'd be mighty nice to have that guy tell me for sure that my loved one has gone on to a better place.

It makes no difference what I want at all. He's not there, never has been, no matter what's gone on in my life, good or bad; by now I don't think I will ever figure out a way to see that mysterious guy on the park bench.

And that's it. That's all there is. That's why I'm not a Christian.

Nessie

I am an atheist myself, I don't believe in religion at all but unfortunately I cannot live a life without someone trying to foist it on me, I have been told everything right up to that fact that I will die a horrendous death on judgment day. All I ever see as a result of religion is pain, suffering and death being inflicted on others, to me religion is greed, control, self righteousness, and even within religion itself it's possible to see how it is nothing less than a form of mind control. The Roman Catholic religion as an example is considered a false religion as it was started by the Romans very much for the purpose of controlling Christians rather than trying to defeat them. Church of England protestant was created specifically for the purpose of control as Henry the VIII thought the Roman Catholic church had too much power, both Judaism and the Muslim faiths consider anyone who is not one of them to be the lowest of the low, scum put here to serve them, Hinduism has the cast system which categorises the lower casts as scum also.
I am pleased to say that within the UK there is now a very strong movement away from organised religion, after all the bible itself states that man shall not create temples and churches in the image of god but that it should be something that resides within each and every one of us.
The day that religion becomes unacceptable to society, the day that members of a modern 21st century society stop believing in a fantasy in a way similar to the medieval superstitions of the dark ages is the day we all stand a chance of getting on and truly becoming a global community and stop the endless suffering inflicted on innocent people by these outmoded, outdated ignorant bigoted fanatics who use religion to persecute the innocent while covering their own far worse crimes up.

http://newsthump.com/2010/12/01/why-do-people-treat-us-with-the-same-contempt-we-show-homosexuals-ask-christians/

I find the subject of religion strangely fascinating.

I don't conform to any particular religion (least of all Christian which I really have problems with). I would say I am agnostic/pagan.

I believe in things that have never been taught to me, I just have always 'known' certain things and they have never let me down.

I do not believe in 'a God'. The bible is so full of contradictions it is laughable.

I would love to learn more about world religions but I am too busy getting messy.

I think everyone has a right to believe in what they want, but have no right to preach to others unless they totally understand what they are talking about and actually practice what they preach...

Jessie xxx
www.messy-jessie.co.uk

I'm on the same page as Yamtree. The world will be better off if people stop believing in fairy tales, and stop using them to justify persecution and murder.

In regards to morality, for me that is a simple equation. As humans, we cannot survive without each other. Our strength is in numbers, and our lives as we know them today depend on everyone doing their part. If I had to produce all of my own food, electricity, etc., build my own tools, provide my own health care, etc., etc., I would not make it 2 weeks. Therefore, having an ordered society where people care for one-another and live by a basic code of conduct is a necessity for my survival. There is a huge payoff for being a "moral" person. "Do onto others as you would have others do onto you", is just a guide to getting along in a society I cannot live without. Furthermore, I am genetically wired with empathy for my fellow man. Empathy evolved for a reason.

Religion was useful a thousand years ago plus before we evolved with society... once upon a time people had to be scared into doing the right thing. Now we have parents that have grown up in an evolved society brought up to know the differance between right and wrong by their parents (and parents parents etc...), judicial systems, schools and most importantly when it comes to religion... science.