It has come to my attention that there is something we should ALL know... These are the things you CAN'T be if you are a "wammer":
-A Christian -A productive member of society -A mother -A father -An employee in a high-level position -A wife -A husband
Man, I wish someone had told me this a long time ago because I guess I'm SCREWED! I just thought I'd share this with everyone because I'm so concerned... We're all going to Hell and we're all going to have crumbling marriages and even worse children!
Now I'm quite sure you all know I'm being RIDICULOUSLY sarcastic, but I must say that I love love looooooove all of the ignorance out there about wammers. We're into scat because we like panty filling, we must be crazy deviants all day long and let our fetish affect our "normal" lives. I especially love when my best friend, my sister, was told she wasn't a "Christian" because of what she does.
And as far as being a good parent, you don't even want to get me started on THAT lol. All I will say is that I am a damn good mother. My life is my son and my son is my life, period. My love for fetish will never affect him and my fellow wammers out there with children know the same. Having a child explains why I am up SO LATE on umd LOL
I realize this is just something that comes with the territory when you have a fetish, but there's no reason why it should make some people want to ruin your life. Thankfully I've always kept really open-minded people close so I haven't had to endure a lot of idiocy, but I know people who have and it disgusts me.
Some people just can't accept that we're having more fun than they are ;) hehe. So let's keep getting messy and pissing them off because their lives are boring and mess-free! -Jilly
P.s. Nerea turned to me today in the car, after buying 44 boxes of pudding, "We're all going to Hell, Jilly. Don't worry though, I'll be there with you driving the party bus" LOL
jilly said: It has come to my attention that there is something we should ALL know... These are the things you CAN'T be if you are a "wammer":
-A Christian -A productive member of society -A mother -A father -An employee in a high-level position -A wife -A husband
When I am feeling combative I would normally say if you understand that the first one doesn't exist then the rest of the list is not subject peoples interpretations of those values.
However, when i feel somewhat sympathetic, and i remember the post telling the rough story I WILL say, anyone who is a Christian and judges you hasn't really done their homework.
Second, pissing off ignorant people is largely pointless as they are fully committed to their belief system inherited from the generations before them. It's very rare from someone with an ingrained belief system to be able to come to the realization that they and their parents and grandparents have just plain been missing the point.
The best approach is simply to avoid these people and let them get on with it, at some point one of their children or children's children are going to either be well educated and question what they have been told or find they are in fact different from what their narrow interpretation of religion teaches them as being a true christian... wether it's being homosexual or even just understanding that gay people are... people, or developing a fetish, being smart enough to understand evolution is very real or whatever the hell shows the dogma being spat out for the nonsense it is.
Personally, I don't care if someone is Christian, I get that most christians have a belief in god and live their life to be good without judging people as bad just because they don't understand that persons genetics, motives or personal belief system... or that their belief system is different.
It breaks down to this. A kid in a Middle Eastern country is taught by his parents that the Koran is the true book of God. A kid in the U.S is taught exactly the same thing about the bible by parents that believe equally as hard as the Middle Eastern parents, who believe as hard as the Indian Hindu parents about their religion who believe as hard as the far eastern parents do about Buddha and Nirvana.
Either only one is right, or all are wrong.
Anyone that believes I don't know right from wrong or that i can't lead a productive life as a member of society because I don't believe in God is ignorant and not worth my time.
Anyone who believes that you lead a productive life as a member of society because I your interpretation of Christianity is ignorant and not worth your time.
If it's the majority of a community you live amongst, then time to move and find somewhere you will be happy, and more to the point, your children will have less friction growing to be happy, productive and independent thinkers free of the religious propaganda.
America would be the truly wonderful country most already believe it to be if it wasn't for the power of the religious bigots twisting Christianity to suit their own intolerance and hatred.
Noise hit it right on the head. Intolerant bigots use the bible and the word of "god" to try and justify their own hatred, prejudices or "morals". Fear mongering and various forms of abuse are their primary weapons. I've dealt with some myself over my "lack of faith" and trust in "devil sciences" and my advice is best summed up with a quote I'm pretty fond of.
"I've been shot down, bloodied, trampled, accused, disgraced, threatened, betrayed, scandalized, dehumanized, malignized. Tough? Sure, but I ain't complaining. Nothing comes easy. I am what I am. Imperfect? Very! Do I like myself? Finally! Do my detractors bother me? Hell no! It's their problem, I aint gonna change. Resolve: Fuck 'em, fuck 'em all". - Robert Evans
Also, if hell is real and I'm going, I'm glad to know I'll be in good company!
Next time someone declares to you that "homosexuality is a choice", you have the perfect right to ask them how "So, how old where you when you made a decision?".
noise said: Also, just to take this right off topic...
Next time someone declares to you that "homosexuality is a choice", you have the perfect right to ask them how "So, how old where you when you made a decision?".
HA! I've used one very similar to that one on a friend. He stammered and had nothing to say. Now if I could just get him to accept the theory of gravity I could die happy.
jilly said: It has come to my attention that there is something we should ALL know... These are the things you CAN'T be if you are a "wammer":
-A Christian -A productive member of society -A mother -A father -An employee in a high-level position -A wife -A husband
Man, I wish someone had told me this a long time ago because I guess I'm SCREWED! I just thought I'd share this with everyone because I'm so concerned... We're all going to Hell and we're all going to have crumbling marriages and even worse children!
Now I'm quite sure you all know I'm being RIDICULOUSLY sarcastic, but I must say that I love love looooooove all of the ignorance out there about wammers. We're into scat because we like panty filling, we must be crazy deviants all day long and let our fetish affect our "normal" lives. I especially love when my best friend, my sister, was told she wasn't a "Christian" because of what she does.
And as far as being a good parent, you don't even want to get me started on THAT lol. All I will say is that I am a damn good mother. My life is my son and my son is my life, period. My love for fetish will never affect him and my fellow wammers out there with children know the same. Having a child explains why I am up SO LATE on umd LOL
I realize this is just something that comes with the territory when you have a fetish, but there's no reason why it should make some people want to ruin your life. Thankfully I've always kept really open-minded people close so I haven't had to endure a lot of idiocy, but I know people who have and it disgusts me.
Some people just can't accept that we're having more fun than they are ;) hehe. So let's keep getting messy and pissing them off because their lives are boring and mess-free! -Jilly
P.s. Nerea turned to me today in the car, after buying 44 boxes of pudding, "We're all going to Hell, Jilly. Don't worry though, I'll be there with you driving the party bus" LOL
If you're going to "Hell" just because of this despite being a productive member of society, then I'm going to become the new Lord of the Dead. Notice I to am being VERY sarcastic!
As far as the whole homosexuality thing, I've known I was bi since I was 8. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a choice. And we are going to hell Jilly. But the devil has a special place reserved for us. I'm pretty sure he has a wam section of hell filled with chocolate and syrup were going to have to roll around in for all eternity xD
before i started wamming i considered myself a "christian" it is extremely hard to call myself that anymore. not only with wam, but in other aspects of my life i have dealt with "christians" who are judgemental, conceited, RACIST, bigots and just all around morons. I decided last weekend, after i went to a church who was housing some of my grandmothers belongings in their storage building and SOLD them in a yard sale (my grandmother just passed, rip) (christian church) and then lied about where the stuff went, i made the choice to call myself a "God lover" instead of a christian. That title just went out the fucking window. i will not be associated with people like that. i know all christians are not like that, but the majority around here is, so, i am just a God fearing, God loving woman.....and that is that. i just live, love and be happy. raise my son, work my ass off and do all i can to make sure that boy has everything he will ever want or need. that is all. love all you guys. you all have been a huge support system to me and jill through some tough times, although this post was not brought on by anything done to us, but done to a good friend on here.
. But the devil has a special place reserved for us. I'm pretty sure he has a wam section of hell filled with chocolate and syrup were going to have to roll around in for all eternity xD
how bad can hell be? eternal messiness, all my friends, nice and warm. Sinners have more fun. besides when was the last time you saw a truly happy bible thumper?
I agree with Noise, if the community around you is judging you and your love ones. It might be time to move away from them. There are tons of places in the world where you can truely live free. (hint drive north to Quebec province.. ;) ) and you and your son will even have almost "free" education and Health care in the process. What a deal!!
After 15 years of internet presence and a lifetime of this fetish I won't bother to go into complex retorts or over analasys of these individuals but I shall mearly reply with an expression of the exact way they make me feel everytime now, which is.....Bah.....Delete......lol......Move on.
Think! Do you need UMD more than UMD needs you? Remember be respectful, put opinions politely and never resort to insults.
noise said: Also, just to take this right off topic...
Next time someone declares to you that "homosexuality is a choice", you have the perfect right to ask them how "So, how old where you when you made a decision?".
I had a dear friend who was "outed" by his aunt to his grandmother --who subsequently disowned him-- and she said it was a choice and he said "Grammy, when did you decide to be STRAIGHT??" and she said, "I decided to because I knew it was right and that's how God wanted it!" Clearly in shock and horror, but it's something we all know isn't a choice. Being into hot girls/guys rolling around in food isn't a choice either. It would be much easier to not buy $60 worth of pudding just to get aroused sometimes! lol
jilly said: It has come to my attention that there is something we should ALL know... These are the things you CAN'T be if you are a "wammer":
-A Christian -A productive member of society -A mother -A father -An employee in a high-level position -A wife -A husband
When I am feeling combative I would normally say if you understand that the first one doesn't exist then the rest of the list is not subject peoples interpretations of those values.
However, when i feel somewhat sympathetic, and i remember the post telling the rough story I WILL say, anyone who is a Christian and judges you hasn't really done their homework.
Second, pissing off ignorant people is largely pointless as they are fully committed to their belief system inherited from the generations before them. It's very rare from someone with an ingrained belief system to be able to come to the realization that they and their parents and grandparents have just plain been missing the point.
The best approach is simply to avoid these people and let them get on with it, at some point one of their children or children's children are going to either be well educated and question what they have been told or find they are in fact different from what their narrow interpretation of religion teaches them as being a true christian... wether it's being homosexual or even just understanding that gay people are... people, or developing a fetish, being smart enough to understand evolution is very real or whatever the hell shows the dogma being spat out for the nonsense it is.
Personally, I don't care if someone is Christian, I get that most christians have a belief in god and live their life to be good without judging people as bad just because they don't understand that persons genetics, motives or personal belief system... or that their belief system is different.
It breaks down to this. A kid in a Middle Eastern country is taught by his parents that the Koran is the true book of God. A kid in the U.S is taught exactly the same thing about the bible by parents that believe equally as hard as the Middle Eastern parents, who believe as hard as the Indian Hindu parents about their religion who believe as hard as the far eastern parents do about Buddha and Nirvana.
Either only one is right, or all are wrong.
Anyone that believes I don't know right from wrong or that i can't lead a productive life as a member of society because I don't believe in God is ignorant and not worth my time.
Anyone who believes that you lead a productive life as a member of society because I your interpretation of Christianity is ignorant and not worth your time.
If it's the majority of a community you live amongst, then time to move and find somewhere you will be happy, and more to the point, your children will have less friction growing to be happy, productive and independent thinkers free of the religious propaganda.
America would be the truly wonderful country most already believe it to be if it wasn't for the power of the religious bigots twisting Christianity to suit their own intolerance and hatred.
You're right, there is no reason to argue, but I was feeling like I was in a "rant" mood because someone put up something the other day saying middy was a douche and that we're all perverts and blah-de-dah-de-dah.... Annoys me.