We have recently seen some posts about gents being a little bored with WAM. I can see how that is becoming a problem as we may have become desensitized with the abundance of material we can get our hands on over the last 5-10 years.

However, I was wondering if there are any clips or videos that you have bought recently that (besides the arousing nature of someone getting messy), you were entertained or shocked or thrilled thoroughly in another manner?

An example of this would be how some setups in topgunge work where I find myself laughing out loud.

Watch Rich's SAW parody. That's pretty funny.

A lot of Rich's video make me laugh out loud. The dude's got a knack for comedy. Not that other producer's don't but Rich is one of the best.

I'm not sure that more than a handful of WAM videos have ever made me laugh out loud. (With me, that's a tough thing to do, though). But here are some of the videos that I have found more entertaining that the "standard" WAM videos that lots of producers keep cranking out. (No, most of these aren't recent, although a number of them are recent acquisitions by me.)

The majority of the That's Unfair TV clips ... since the victims don't know what they're in for, this certainly adds an element of surprise and thrill that no other WAM clips can supply.

Piejinx/Pies Next Door -- This guy sadly stopped producing his great pie videos a year or two ago ... although he did have a "new" -- or "new to us" anyway -- clip on YouTube a few months ago. But I think he came up with a lot of the most original and genuinely funny pie setups around. I really wish I'd bought more of them when he was still offering them for sale. (He sells a DVD on Amazon with tons of the old clips on it, but it's hard to tell what's on it, i.e. what I do and don't already have.)

Pied Pinups -- Not necessarily especially funny, but the creative use of music, editing, and some high-res super slo mo sections make this producer's work more interesting than most to me.

"The Art Student" videos from Anglefan. This girl is a total WAM natural. Great sense of humor and acting skills. Anglefan's setups in his videos tend to be stock or just plain non-existent, but somehow this model totally overcomes that with her ability to improv and really be there "in the moment." (I don't mean to knock Anglefan's other videos -- I've bought many, in fact. But let's just say they're long on very sexy WAM models and very short on original plots/setups/scenarios.)

Ariel Vs. Jilly Back Porch PIe Fight by the Little Plastic Pool (Wambabes). This one isn't particularly creative in terms of its setup, but these two have great chemistry, and seem to have a genuine blast pieing one another repeatedly. Jilly is completely adorable in the moments just before she is pied, too.

"A Pi Day explanation gets messy" (Piedladies). A pretty flimsy setup, but the adorable star has hysterical fun getting pelted with pies -- she can't stop laughing and the fun is contagious.

I also want to give general props to Slapstick Stuff. Although Rich has certainly run a number of his classic skits into the ground through heavy repetition, many of them were truly funny when he first started using them (and can be again occasionally, when a model has decent acting skills). I also really enjoyed the elaborate, lovingly crafted trailers he made in earlier years. And lest this all sound too much in the past, it should be noted that Rich continues to come up with creative and genuinely funny ideas too. The SAW parody that deadpool mentions above is perhaps the prototypical example. Not very recent, of course, but I haven't bought any SS videos in a long time, due to Rich's policy of never offering deep discounts on the order of many other WAM producers (like most of those mentioned above). Rich explained this in a recent post, and I can appreciate his marketing strategy from a logical standpoint. However, in these tough economic times, the logical thing for *me* to do as a WAM consumer is to stick to the heavily discounted specials that many other producers have offered.

Rich's 'Pulp Fiction' video was great, as well as his 'Saw' video. Those years in college learning make-up with mustaches finally paid off.

Can't believe I forgot Piefightgirls in the big list I made above. Neil can be pretty imaginative and funny with some of his setups. I think he really shines with the two-girl videos in particular. It's as much about having a pair of ladies with chemistry as it is the scripting, and Neil's come up with tons of two-girl gems. The Heather Vs. Paris clip is great, for example. Also, pretty much anything that Neil did with Kym and Naomi K. is fantastic. I really think that Kym and Naomi made the best WAM model duo of all time ... it's a damn shame that Naomi retired!

Anyone who's bought the latest topgunge download and does not laugh at the interview segment has zero sense of humour! TG and YCTOTI are always funny, but Liz's comments in the last one were priceless!

The irony, unfortunately, is that I was emailing with him recently... and he confessed he wanted to shoot more stuff, but he couldn't make it work financially... since the sales weren't there. Maybe these posts will help change his mind, but remember: If you like something, try to support the producer financially... or it might go away!!



And I agree with you on a lot of those points. Some skits have been used a LOT... although I did that early on, too. These days I try to "evolve" the skits at least... so while it might look like the same ol' crap (and sometimes it is!), you could download a "baker" skit from 2 years ago vs. now and the script would be totally different. Would the costume be the same? Yeah... but I cut WAY back on my costume budget after the first year!! These days I might buy one new thing every 3-4 months, if that. So apologies for some repeats in outfits, but I do try to make the skits about 12% new each time.

Ah yes, the trailers... I still put the creative energy into them occasionally (the Britney SS80/81 one and *definitely* the 5-year one) but, honestly, a lot of that is burnout. Burnout over the stupid crap with YouTube, mainly... and while I like DailyMotion, I get very little feedback over there. So it seems counter-productive to spend hours on a great trailer that's gonna get very little response. Same with the giveaway clips... like the SAW and Pulp Fiction parodies. I was really hoping to produce content that was truly mainstream, but in the end it only led to a target on my back. So you can understand if I'm not as excited to give more freebies to the masses right now...

As for deep discounting... Yeah, I'm never gonna offer clips for 25 cents. Sorry. I honestly don't want to devalue my stuff that much. There ARE a lot of $2.99 and $3.99 clips in the DL store tho... and as I was telling someone yesterday, the newest clips are WAY underpriced relative to even a year ago. (All of Heather's scenes at $6.99, for instance... which I think is a pretty good deal, considering.)

And, of course, the deep discounts for DVDs are still there on the website... and all those can be sent out as downloads instead. But I do sympathize and understand. I might do some price drops on older catalog titles soon... but I don't see any "buy one get one" download sales anytime soon. Not that they're not fantastic during that day/week... but the trade-off is a HUGE dropoff when when it ends.

--Rich

p.s. oh yeah. thanks for all who find our stuff funny. it's not easy coming up with the umpteenth variation on hitting someone with pies, but I do my best!

The newest shoot I did with her has a moment that cracks me up everytime. Immediately after a nice sliming, she gets plastered with a pie out of nowhere. She pauses a moment and says 'yeah it's all downhill from here'

It's not only the way she said it, but it was great timing. I admit I don't make 'comedy' videos (let's be real guys, you're not buying this stuff for comedy) but some stuff just comes off as beinng legitimately funny. Great talent will make the video shine.

My stuff cracks me up because getting messy is just so much fun...!!

Trust me, I had many laughs doing them as Im glad you had many laughing at the way they turned out. How could we not have fun with the natural setups of the nature of what we were doing?

Theres a video from i think its PiedAsianGirls where the girl gets slimed and then says "Smells like a doggy". I cracked up

Hi,

I just saw a video which was both a great WAM production and made me laugh out loud the entire time I watched it.

"Don't Steal My Beans" available on www.mywamgirls.com stars two really cute girls getting totally messy with beans and nacho cheese. I swear my gut hurt I laughed so hard while watching it. Plus the girls a really cute and having a crazy time messing each other from head to toe.

I am mostly into pies, but this was well worth the money and provided both messy entertainment and a good old fashion belly laugh!

I like the classic slapstick comedy in the Splosh videos. Even though it's all very obvious, there's something timeless about it all, a throwback perhaps to an age when comedy didn't have to be as sophisticated or frequently corrosive as a lot of the mainstream version is today.

I also used to like the humour in the original Messy Fun videos, there are some classic skits in some of them. "Substance Abuse" in particular was cool, with the AA-style meeting of gunge-mad girls, and the seven-girl pie-fight at the end!

Another very funny WAM producer I forgot about in my posts above: Blue Leopard Productions. Sadly, this is another one who's long ago stopped making WAM videos, but his titles were genuinely hilarious WAM classics, particularly "Madame Schlotcka."

Rich's "SAW Parody" literally did make me laugh out loud. If I'm trying to recruit new models and explain WAM, that's always is on my list of links I send. Just to show the whole WAM experience starts with a sense of humor.

Great, now Rich is gonna expect a check for "model recruitment"

Robby
WAMma Lamma Pie
www.wammalamapie.com

www.shepiestheguy.com

Robby, I've long stopped holding my breath awaiting your checks "in the mail."

I liked BlueLeopard's stuff too. Very original and innovative. I seem to remember him quitting the scene in disgust, mainly because his stuff didn't sell... while the 3,270th "girl sits in chair with plastic behind her and gets pie after pie" video did.

And that's the pitfall of trying to create original ideas: It takes a LOT more work, and when the audience doesn't support you financially, it's easy to get discouraged and cynical about the whole process. Because sitting a girl in a chair and slamming her with pies takes NO thought or creativity at all... but if the bottom line's the same, then why bother with the extra hassle, right? (Not that I'm saying I'll ever go down that route... but there have been a few down moments when I've considered it.... )

One more observation: If you hire a good model and put her in a good environment, she WILL say and do some funny stuff over the course of a shoot. That should actually be expected. A shoot without those moments usually means the girl either hated the experience, or did it just for the money... or has the personality of a 2 x 4.

--Rich

This actually still makes me laugh, it's the bit with Fi rocking out that clinches it. I know it's one of my own, but I justify calling it because it was really Fi coming up with it and carrying it off. I think my editing is a little off, it could be tighter and better paced I think for effect, maybe I will get round to redoing it sometime.

Also, the mess isn't the funny bit. I think we are long past the stage of mess being funny. I rate it with someone slipping on a banana skin - it's been done to death. I do however thing there is room to make with the humour around it... and Rich's SAW parody is my favourite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urheC2EVU60

I may be getting too technical here but can something make you illegitimately laugh?

Of course there is such a thing as illegitimate laughter. There's the kind that keeps you from crying, screaming, and throwing something across the room because you've purchased a video that does nothing at all for you.

The fact is, some of us are primarily concerned with the comedic aspects of wam, and don't consider the odd bit of humor to be a simple bonus to watching someone get messy. I am most definitely desensitized to mess without context, and watching someone pie themselves or grin whilst being slimed is akin to watching paint dry, no matter how attractive the recipient.

Comedy is hard. Believe it or not, the pie gag is one of the most difficult bits to get right of all comedic ventures. Setup, timing, and reaction all must be executed perfectedly. We need to believe that she either doesn't know it's coming, or can do nothing to avoid it. No model is going to pull that off. We need an actress.

I too have made purchases from Anglefan, Rich, and some of the other producers.
Anglefan has pretty girls and selects excellent stills to sell a video, but the girls of his that I've seen were not actresses. Also, when i hear him giving directions in the middle of a scene, I want to rip my ears off.
As for Rich, he does put the effort into making it funny. He builds the scene, has great costumes, uses rehearsed lines, and most of the girls try their best to act horrified/indignant to sell the joke. When he uses a model that can't act, or even read a line with anything approaching an emotion (SS89 & 90), it would be nice to know before making a purchase.
The improv setups like TUTV have had some of the best reactions I've seen. That's because they are natural reactions from someone who legitimately did not want to get pied. Unfortunately, that negates the possibility of a decent comedic setup.

I know I'm more critical than your average viewer, and if you'd rather keep churning out the same stuff, you'll probably still have clients. I just won't be one of them.