Hello.l noticed that not all wam models are career wammers. particulary concerning the girls who do stuff for rich,ken,and other prominent wam producers, do any of the models have any regrets after doing their messy vids?

I never had any bad experiences. All my models enjoy getting messy and they like it. Unlike some models that just want the money. I am blessed to have a lot of girls who do it just for fun and then the money is plus. I have had models who wanted to do wam for free but I can't let anyone do that for free for all that they have to go through. I mean, I have some models who I know I wouldn't use again but that is by personal prefrence and my own regrets from using them.

Er...yeah but not just for WAM stuff.
A lot of girls who model for anything sexual have problems with it mentally (although regret may not be the right word because of the money).
I've been out with a couple of ex models (one who wammed) and both were affected by it sadly.
I think the getting messy/wearing certain aspects is fun for some..it's when they realise that people are getting off on it they don't like it.

I regret it. I still have peanut butter in my hair for crying out loud!!

Now that I have reconciled abit with my producer pal, maybe he can post my videos up on his site again.

Most of my models were "wam virgins" when I first worked with them and now they can't get enough.

I generally make a point of hiring girls who are already in the adult business (strippers, pornstars, cam girls) so WAM is actually kind of a step towards the "respectable" side of the business for most of them, plus they all think it's great fun. I have never heard from any of them that they had regrets about getting slimed or pied. Mostly they call me to do more shoots, sometimes in the middle of the night:

" Come on baby, you know I'm good for it. I just need one more sliming, then I'll get clean tomorrow. I swear. "

Interesting thread.

I had one situation where I phtographed three 20 year old girls at the car wash. There are a few regrets because they posted the photos on Facebook and family members thought it was too much like a 'Girls Gone Wild' thing.

I ran into one of them just an hour ago at Wal Mart, and she wants to model more for me, but it probably won't be kinky stuff or wam, just 'normal' model stuff.

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I can't tell if you're being serious.

The best is when I get email 2 weeks later from a girl who failed the quiz show and was slimed telling me that there was still slime chunkies on her chest.

which models were these? and those are some lucky slime chunks

Hi

I have had many one and done WAM models but lately they all enjoy it

Lenny

No two women are alike and I am certain that there are as many reactions as there are models.

My own experience is with producers of mud and quicksand shoots rather than straight WAM shoots. Screening models well pays off. The producers I've known who used models with fetish/porn backgrounds had the best experiences. The producers I've known who used mainstream models with little or no background in erotic work had more problems, since the model herself may not have understood the true nature of the shoot.

As for the experience I've had in front of the camera:

As a fetishist, you would think that bringing on the camera while I play would be a match made in heaven, especially since there's no way I would fail to understand what the shoot was really about.

In fact it didn't work that way. I have always had trouble separating the fetish, which is full of private thoughts and is emotionally-charged, from the business aspect, which requires a certain amount of detachment.

I consistently felt the best about video when it was me who controlled the shoot.

Nessie

people have regrets from modelling? I guess maybe being caught out by people you don't want to have known, yeah. but what other reasons could a model regret?

The video I made of Tara has so far been the only WAM video that any model has been okay with me to share on the Net. Tara is not into 'adult' or nude modelling, yet she had no problem with sliming herself and even did other wetlook and messy photos with other local photographers afterwards. I don't know if she will do another shoot with me, but I enjoyed working with her.

The second and third instance the girls had heaps of fun doing it, but even after they had signed the waiver they asked me not to put them up on the Net so I didn't even though I do have the right to.

I then tried a local 'adult' modelling site to see if I could find others, and one of them who has no problems with doing nude and topless modelling and lingerie waitressing said that she was offended by the Trash The Girl site as she found it 'degrading'. I couldn't believe my ears!

Sadly, we are now living in a world where people (especially girls) are taking themselves too seriously and worry what other people might say or think about them instead of just having a fun and silly time.

Australia used to be a very 'anything goes' larrikin culture, but since 1985 it's become very staid and conservative.

I do know a couple of girls who do more adult style work and really regret it,as it totally changes the way they view men and ruins any possible relationships because they are made to feel just like a piece of meat.

The most common question our girls get asked is "Doesn't it bother you to think that random guys are jacking off over you doing this?"

Just my 2 cents answer to your question! xx

Hi Lisamoomin,

Everyone has the choice as to what to they want to be doing with their lives, even adult modelling. The girls and women who are involved with that line of work do it of their own free will, nobody is holding a gun to their head and saying that they have to. They would automatically know that whatever they do in front of the camera is going to have anonymous guys getting their rocks off over them.

If they are uneasy or uncomfortable about it, then they ought to change their line of work. Many models and 'adult' ones are university students or have degrees in honourable studies like psychology (such as Slimed Susan). Couldn't they be applying their knowledge to jobs in which they will feel genuine job satisfaction?

To Fatpizzaman

I agree everyone does have a choice, and has the right to change their mind whenever they want.
But the question was about regrets,how can you regret doing something,without doing it?
I was just giving wamslapper another reason why girls might regret it, reasons that I know to be true as,as I said I know a couple of girls this has happenend to!

Do any me or any of our girls regret it??
Hell no to much fun ....xxxxxxxx

At the end of the day the girls are doing the work for the money, let's not delude ourselves. Thankfully the vast majority seem to enjoy theselves as it is so different from "normal" modelling type work. In a way they are sending themselves up by getting messy/wet as opposed to the trad "glam" shoot. If they didn't enjoy they wouldn't come back for more!
Sure there's girls who try it once and say no more thanks, but it was their choice initially.

Malc.

To Susan P,

Sounds great. I was going to buy some of your videos when your site had been pulled down. Nice to see that you're still going in the scene.

I would think in MOST cases this is true, but there are wam women out there who run websites for their own love of wam and to share the joy in front of the camera. Then why do they charge? Simply to support this rather expensive fetish, it's a nice trade, trading pics and vids for wam supplies, and this really is what it boils down to in the case of wam models who simply love wam and need to generate money to keep wamming in a big way.

Marlicious is not in it for the money, neither were those carwash girls I photographed, as I cannot pay any models any money. Marlicious does it for the love of wam, and to share that joy with the wam community. Even the www.marlicious.com website does not sell anything, it's all just give-away material becuase she enjoys wam and sharing the photos.

So I don't think ALL wam models are just doing it for the money, though money is nice and helps support both the girls and the producers.

Let's not forget that the whole nature of content distribution has changed in the last fifteen-odd years.

Let's say you were a model when you were younger. If you did a WAM shoot in 1993, or 1983, or for that matter 1883, unless you were some kind of futurist savant, you had no way of knowing that almost any idiot with a pulse who stumbled across the sole remaining copies of those photos in 2009 would be able to scan them and distribute them to a global audience at negligible cost. You may be a respectable bank vice-president today, but maybe in 1982, when you were a college freshman, you went to a fraternity party at which one of the main attractions was a mudslide. You went down said slide a couple of times and at some point were photographed, covered in mud with your bathing suit *almost* revealing some extra goodies. The photo was deemed too risque for the yearbook, of course, but the print and the negatives sat in an archive until last month, when a yearbook staffer was cleaning out the office, found the photo and took it home... at which point his roommate, a closet WAMmer, pounced on it, scanned it and posted it to the UMD, thrilled that he could finally contribute something. Within hours it found its way onto dozens of other sites, Yahoo groups and so on. And this morning, you had an email in your inbox from an old college friend, with the subject "Is this you?" It isn't a career-ender, and may not even be embarrassing, but you've been denied the right to control your exposure.

In 2009 most people are savvy enough to know the potential consequences of doing anything in front of a camera, whether they're doing it for money, for kicks, or unknowingly. If they don't know, they learn quickly.

Also, to Fatpizzaman: I'm surprised that no one has taken issue with your use of the word "honorable" when discussing models' education and other qualifications. There is nothing inherently dishonorable about modeling, adult or otherwise. It may be one of those jobs/careers that a certain segment of the public prefers not to acknowledge or endorse, but it needn't be sleazy or disreputable. It's just a shame that people who do that work, whether once or a thousand times, may not be permitted to leave it behind them when they're done with it.