well i don't know whats more annoying the "LOOK WE HAVE LOTS OF BLUESCREEN" or the fact that the editing is here there and everywhere. Models look good, are they female
Jinxguy1000 said: What's next? Any time you meet a "girl" she needs to "prove" she's female? I know that there are at least SOME real females out there,sheesh!
yes but nadia was never open about telling people that she was TG when it came to selling videos, which will always make people wary about buying videos from the valentines network
Jinxguy1000 said: What's next? Any time you meet a "girl" she needs to "prove" she's female? I know that there are at least SOME real females out there,sheesh!
The issue is that the person that runs that place is a TG female who wasn't upfront about originally being male. So it makes any future videos that come out suspicious because we don't truly know that the "girls" are true females. You may be okay with masturbating to a former man (no matter how good of a job the surgeons did), but I personally am not. So yeah, whenever this site puts out movies without some full disclosure on the models original sex involved then it will definitely be questioned and for good reason.
I collect Transformers toys if anyone is getting rid of their childhood toys. :D
Even if Nadia would have come out in the first place, I'm sure some folks would be skeptical about the gender of all the models. For those who don't like the valentine network stuff,there's always other messy sites,assuming all of the models are female of course.
Jinxguy1000 said: Even if Nadia would have come out in the first place, I'm sure some folks would be skeptical about the gender of all the models. For those who don't like the valentine network stuff,there's always other messy sites,assuming all of the models are female of course.
If nadia was open about it in the first place we would have believed her, but she kept the whole argument going because she wouldnt admit to being a TG and falsely selling videos which are not advertised as being TG. I have no problems with TG's TV's or CD's making videos or anything just that they are advertised properly and not being falsely advertised as normal female videos
protostar8 said: You may be okay with masturbating to a former man (no matter how good of a job the surgeons did), but I personally am not.
I feel the same as protostar8.
But, I DO find the notion of doing a full penis check kind of funny. (I know - nobody is seriously proposing that (are they?). But, it is funny to imagine that happening.)
I would like to think that there are actually honest people left in the world (the other models,not Nadia).I guess the TG topic will always come up with every valentine network posting. I won't post any more updates from that site then.
I wish these videos had more face hits. Lots of sexy ladies and the hits (when they are in the face) are some of the best around! Suggestion for your next video? Forcing their faces into pies/cakes on tables or assisted selfpies please!
Jinxguy1000 said: I would like to think that there are actually honest people left in the world (the other models,not Nadia).I guess the TG topic will always come up with every valentine network posting. I won't post any more updates from that site then.
Excellent clip. I love the way the pies are dished out in these vids, lots of rubbing in and verbal taunting. wish more producers/models gave pies out like that.
And the 3 models in this vid are definitely (obviously) women.
Let me just clarify this for you before anyone thinks we have anything against TV, TGs or what have you because we don't. The reason Nadia was banned was because she set about operating a distinct and deliberate policy on UMD of deceiving our membership into thinking she was a natural female. I had several conversations with her where she claimed it was her right, as a legally certified woman to make that claim, and yes I do agree with that in principle however in this case it was not so strait forwards. What I found was different sites, that catered for different interests that she ran where each of these sites would make very distinctly different claims aimed entirely at maximising sales. She would run a TG specific site where she sold work and would write very openly, frequently and with extreme enthusiasm about how she was a TG and would do anything to maximise the sale of her work to those who were looking specifically for work featuring TGs. When she came to UMD, as most of you know she not only attempted to give the impression she was a natural female but also argued very strongly her rights to claim she was a female with myself in frequent exchanges as I attempted to sort this mess out. I was so concerned about getting this right that I contacted various well known organisations for their opinion on the subject, there replies varied from not commenting at all to supporting the fact that it was not in the spirit of what they were trying to achieve some even stating they felt this kind of behaviour was the kind of thing that set back movements to legalise the right to gender reassignment, in short I was not in any way acting in a bigoted and prejudiced way and whilst we support the rights of the individual you have to bear in mind that there are bad TGs, TSs, gay, strait, bi, wammers, sploshers what have you who will attempt to hide behind their minority status and think it will scare people off, well it won't, not on UMD and no matter who you are if you come here and attempt to deceive the UMD membership in any way shape or form you will be banned. I will also say that the Valentine network in no way had anything to do with this, it was between the individual and UMD who was trading here as an individual and at no time did the Valentine network or any of its associates interfere with or attempt to sway the outcome of this problem and left me alone to sort it out between myself as a UMD Moderator and Nadia.
Hope that clears it up
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This is my second Valentine Network purchase. The Pie Class is amazing due to the quality of the models, their attitudes, and the amount of pie hits to the face. I'd recommend it to anyone that likes a quality pie video. Chase is just adorable. She's worth the purchase on her own.
The new political roundtable is solid but would have preferred to see more pies to the face. That blonde (the one in both videos) makes me go all pitter patter.