Here is a question for the pie and messy types on the UMD. Mud and playing in it is different, that’s a sensual and erotic fun thing to do that both men and women enjoy, I totally get the reasons and the psychology for doing it. Now I like pies and chocolate too, but I think the psychology behind doing it is different.

We did a shoot with Playboy model Cali Logan yesterday, and I have to say she is incredibly good looking, sexy, great personality and very smart. I am sure a lot of men (and some women) would give a left testicle to be with her. So why would we like to take such beauty and completely trash it? I know my reasons, but what are yours:

Phil

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I'm pretty sure I'd need both nuts for Cali.

easy for me its taking something pretty and making it dirty and corrupted,

If we don't do it, the terrorists have won.

Fucking un-believers will NEVER win I tell you, we are armed and ready, fuck em if they can't laugh at a cream pie in the face LOL

Phil

I can't resist reporting that this is EXACTLY what I told my first mud buddy three days after the infamous 9/11.

"If we stay home out of fear, they've won! Anyway, they'd HATE what we're gonna do...which is to film those evil sinful scantily-babes in mud...and that's enough to make me wanna go through with it!"

As a non-pie-girl, I am not qualified to answer the original question. I think that you probably right about the psychology of mud and pie being completely different.

Mudpits don't ruin anyone's beauty at all. They enhance it.

Nessie

As long as she doesn't touch the Lotus and ruin the wax job, do your worst! lol

This is why we do it:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_and_messy_fetishism
Apparently.

That made me laugh out loud!

I would happily give a testical if I had any.... Maybe I could use one of Matt's? I'm sure he won't mind. Would he? Nah, he doesn't need 2.

Jessie xxx
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How about "hardwiring" as a potential answer?

Best. Response. Ever!

Here's a thought (and not necessarily a particularly profound one...!)

Isn't good (non messy) sex pretty messy? And sometimes quite rough? Certainly after a good seeing-to I'll be a bit disheviled to put it mildly; sweaty and probably, em, well, quite sticky as well if you get my drift...!

So is our wam fetish an extension of that? Just the logical extension of a good, hard, D & S fucking?

Just a thought! I now hand this debate over to my forum colleagues Mr Carl Jung and Mr Sigmund Freud.

Pip pip Toodle loo!

M xxx

You're always welcome in Florida for a good seeing-to, Maddy dear.

Okay, interesting response, and Maddy is of course quite right. But then again I have come across girls who need 'wet wipes' by the bed LOL Assuming Maddy is not one of those kinds of girls?

On a personal note, 90% of the sex I have is 'vanilla' well, vanilla for me anyway, doubt anyone else would think it vanilla! As I am an S&M fan, with a heavy helping of D/S thrown in I like nothing better than to dominate a woman, covering her in chocolate, pieing her and if agreed to taking her in the ass while she is tied up or otherwise restrained. I agree with most of you, a woman covered is cream/chocolate is fucking hot as hell, but a lot more of it is how she behaves. I need a woman to do a little show for me first, slave position, lingerie, messy liquids to get me revved up, yes she should please me before I give her the time of her life, like Maddy said if you aren't sweaty, possibly bruised from being flung around the bed/room, then what's the point?

Phil

P.S. Jessica, give up one of his? Oh girl you need a good sorting out, wana give me a hand Maddy?

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What is your address Phil? I think I need to pay you a visit....!!

Well Maddy, we both know that sooner or later we are going to bump Messy ugly's... The question is are you worthy? Think you can get me revved up? Want me to tie your hands behind your back and push you face first into the big thick creamy cake? Hummm what should I do to you while you know who watches?

Phil

Personally I enjoy the unbalancing of order and the slight sense of rebelliousness that comes from dirtying what should, by societal standards, be clean. Also, that 'slippery' feeling.

Love the tied up and face down combo. Yes please!

Actually it all sounds pretty good...!!

PS What's a messy ugly...?!! xxx

Maddy,

I swear to Jebus,Santa Claus, and the estate of Elvis Aaron Presley, I will possess you!

I will aid your transformation into a good Canadian girlfriend....pancakes and bacon for dinner, and Stompin' Tom Connors on the CD player....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZWxErEbQkY

Sheeeesh...you two, get a chat room already

Nessie said: "Mudpits don't ruin anyone's beauty at all. They enhance it.

Well, I can understand if you mean AFTER you clean off (i.e., the effects on one's skin), but immersion, falling into, or being splattered with mud, especially, is the essence of being "soiled" (it being wet soil)...especially if it includes the face and head...not that different from gunging/slimings...and ultimately a pie in the face....

...but I think you point out a distinction about the "why" questions: some folks like watching others get messy or wet, other like doing it (immersing) themselves....

...the pie-face (or wherever) sight gag was originally popularized in mass entertainment wherein the gag happened to someone else....so, this is perhaps why not all wammers like to participate (or at least, don't mind just watching)...but many also like to participate...women in particular like the sensual aspect of sploshing or wam...if feels great to get a cool creamy pie in the face (provided one is not too self-serious, or unprepared)...just as it feels great to sink into thick, wet, cool (or warm) mud on a hot summer's day....

....of course, others, like there to be some theatrical element to the scene, and even the element of humiliation....saluromania...taking pleasure in the soiling or disheveling of attractive persons....plug that into the sex drive...and you get wam fetishism.....