I know this topic has appeared in some form or other before but I've noticed it running frequently through a few threads recently.

My personal and humble preference is for models to get completely messy from head to foot before any clothing or shoes are removed.

(That's not to say that I don't relish the sight and sound - eventually - of gooey cream pies swiftly demolished onto bare breasts or buttocks...or gallons of chocolate batter dispatched onto various uncovered regions of the female form)

How do others feel about the clothes removal situation?

(I hasten to add, I'm not complaining either, as this is all prodigiously catered for by our many fine producers ).

My personal preference is for clothes to get as messy as possible before removal. Whether wet or messy, I love the clothes sticking/clinging to the body or sagging under the weight of the mess or water.

I don't need nudity to enjoy a picture or vid. However, after part of the mess happens, if the clothes are removed, and more mess happens, that is good at that point.

I also love the few times that I've seen ladies putting their messy clothes back on. By then everything is cold and damp and the reaction is usually great! I've done it, and it takes a brave person to put the clothes back on! As much as I love wamming, I have to talk myself into it to put the heavy, cold, mucky clothes back on. Not a good sensation, which appeals to my "humiliation" fetish.

Norman

I feel the clothes are always coming off too soon in wam videos. I like to keep them on till the end personally. When I have sessions with my girl they don't come off till we wash up.

Starting off nude is the only way to go for me, clothes only get in the way of all the squishy fun.

For her: after the camera stops.
For me: before I start touching myself.

Adding another voice to the keep the clothes on longer crowd. Seeing a girl in clothes than have just been saturated with mess is the ultimate.

I also like if the clothes come off a bit at a time with more mess added in between until finally nothing's left.

What is this "clothes removal" of which people speak?

I like things the way I film them - fully clothed from start to finish, including the hosedown afterwards.

So in answer to the original question - for the entire scene and the clean-up.

My thoughts exactly. Adding to the crowd as well =)

Until they're completely soaked and wrecked with mess, of course... and then they should be ripped to shreds.
As much of a turn-on as WAM is for me, ripping the satin bouse and silk panties off the girl I'm wamming with and shredding her stockings is almost enough to make me cum without even touching anything.

Count me with the "clothes should stay on longer but eventually come off" crowd, with some lingering on the half-undressed girl. Seeing a girl continue to get messy in her underwear is exciting to me. (At least one video has disappointed my by going straight from messy clothed to nude with only a split second of the bra and panties that looked so great in the preview pics.)

Keep them on until she's 100% covered, then keep them on a few minutes more. After that, do what you want. If they want to get naked I won't notice most likely since once the clothes come off I lose interest.
The models removing any clothes off when they have just a dabble of mud on them = no purchase.

Clothes should never be allowed near mess if possible. It *is* very sexy to watch a girl strip before she gets messy, but she should be down to swimwear/topless/nude before coming into contact with the mess.

Basically "appropriately dressed" for getting messy, like someone getting wet or messy in real life would.

Of course for amateurs there has to be allowance for modesty, but even then, it would be normal to wear shorts+t-shirt or perhaps a swimsuit (like at mud volleyball or college jello wrestling for example)

I do understand a lot of wammers recall fully clothed mess from gungings on tv etc, but that was never a trigger for my fetish. To me clothing getting messy is not sexy at all.

Glamourgunge Gunge the Stripper is a perfect example of what works for me.

This is always a problem for producers, the diverse range of different preferences that WAM lovers have. Personally as a mud lover I like them to start out clothed as I like a scene to look as though they have accidently found themselves in mud, how they end up can vary in my opinion whether still fully clothed or naked but I do like them to have had a good old session first with them on.
But as I say this is why we are all different and like different things, no one way is right.

cheers Jonn

One reason I never buy WAM videos or downloads any more
is that nobody has ever captured the perfect state of undress.
(Actually, my other reasons are much more important.)

The perfect state of undress and apparel by all objective scientifice standards and not by any subjective standards by me
is epitomized in videos such as the YouTube channel of,
as just one example, CheekyPanty
or the video x85ho4_yyyyyyyyyyy_sexy on the Dailymotion channel of R5A8E.

(I didn't want to embed an unnecessary videos, so you'll have to google these channels if you want)

Although many WAM producers have come close.

I personally enjoy the feeling of the soggy clothes sticking against my skin. I try to stay in the clothes for as long as I can, even after the cameras have finished rolling

I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this kind of subject as for some people they love nudity and wam, while others prefer the look (and feel) of the clothing covered in custard pies, gunge and slime ...

Michaela x

I agree that the clothes sometimes come off too quickly. It's particularly frustrating when I'm in a mood where I really want to believe that what's happening in the video actually happened in real life -- for instance, that somewhere in the world there are two ridiculously hot roommates who go to their high-paying corporate jobs dressed like hookers, and enjoy nothing more at the end of a long day than unwinding with an extravagant pie fight and some casual lesbian action. It could happen.

My personal preference: I like the clothes to stay on until they're thoroughly messed (and I've had time to enjoy them in thoroughly messed form), then be removed so the next layer underneath can also be thoroughly messed, and so on. Once all the clothes the model in question is prepared to remove have been removed, whatever's left (skin, underwear, etc) should also be thoroughly messed.

I like clothes to stay on as long as possible until they are thoroughly messed. Then, remove the outer layer to mess up the lingerie. The biggest turn-on for me is a girl messing up clothes that you don't want to get dirty normally such as wedding gown, cocktail dress, or business suit.

Nothing is more sexier and fun than a girl dressed in a white wedding gown with all accessories and perfect makeup taking pies after pies.

 Clearly this is going to depend on a number of variables, such as particulars of the scene as well as the target audience. However, I'm pleased to hear so many voices sharing my sentiment -- showing up fully clothed and remaining so at least until thoroughly messed is preferred. My view is almost diametrically opposed to htstn1's perspective. When I see a model in swimwear or obviously inexpensive attire, as if she were expecting a messy experience, I get far less of a charge out of the scene than when formal attire or a really nice set of street clothes are made thoroughly messy.

 I would not assert that either one of us is clearly right or wrong. (Though I would argue that it is wrong to write about this in absolute imperatives, as if it were somehow a failure to produce media that is not precisely designed to accommodate one's personal preferences.) Clearly the market can bear examples across the whole spectrum from "always nude with explicit sex acts" to "prim and proper attire from start to finish." Personally, I enjoy both extremes. Even so, I find the middle ground of swimwear, lingerie, and very skimpy clothes to be a sort of "worst of both worlds" lacking the appeal of either nudity or a proper elegant outfit enduring wet and/or messy treatment.

 I suppose for me the ultimate scene (short of an event involving my own participation) would feature a group of young women in fine dresses or blouse and skirt ensembles gently progressing from playful dabs of mess to a colorful and uninhibited foodfight followed by tearing one another's clothes off and having a slippery glistening lesbian orgy, the camera silently documenting all of it. Yet even then, my interest might be more concentrated on the early phases than the finale.

 I suspect it has something to do with vanilla sexuality being much less rare in my life than the experience of feeling and seeing a beautiful woman getting wildly messy in one of her favorite outfits. Then again, it may just be that, in the absence of a strong emotional connection, my conventional sex drive is not as easily engaged as my fetish-response. Whatever the case, I suppose I count as another vote for the "start out fully clothed and stay that way until you're good and messy" preference.

Regards,
messydom

My preference is for the woman to be nude from the start. I like seeing thick, sticky substances such as molasses, golden syrup, caramel etc. poured over the model's clean nude body. As an aside, I also prefer the facial coverage to be the last thing, after the model's body and hair are completely covered.

I realize my preferences are pretty narrow, and I won't deny I have bought downloads or site memberships where the model is clothed, but scenes as I have outlined above are the ones I am MOST likely to buy.

well I should have been more careful in my wording as obviously I just mean my preference. It's hugely exciting to me to think of the girl having chosen to get messy. For amateurs obviously this involves not getting too revealing (unless drunk haha) but nevertheless wearing clothes that are meant for getting messy in as opposed to normal clothes. An example of this is going barefoot, a particular turn-on for me.

But again its just based on differences in whatever peoples formative experiences were. My tastes are the same now as they were before I discovered online wam.

But really, we're just lucky that there are enough wammers for there to be sites catering for most tastes. And of course theres always customs.